26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Watch: Doug Whaley's Full Press Conference (38:54)Bills general manager Doug Whaley wraps up the 2016 season by talking about Rex Ryan's firing, Tyrod Taylor's contract situation, and hiring the next head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Since no one has posted the video... all I have to go by is commentary... Basically the Pegulas hired Rex, Whaley signed off on it. We don't know if Whaley had complaints or not about Rex during the last two seasons. Pegulas fired Rex possibly without consulting Whaley. Whaley is now in charge of this coaching hire. That's basically it, right? And Brandon was involved in the Rex hire, he probably won't be involved in this one though because of his promotion at PSE. He does a lot now, Doug wasn't sure of what he does but man it's a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Since no one has posted the video... all I have to go by is commentary... Basically the Pegulas hired Rex, Whaley signed off on it. We don't know if Whaley had complaints or not about Rex during the last two seasons. Pegulas fired Rex possibly without consulting Whaley. Whaley is now in charge of this coaching hire. That's basically it, right? Basically, Doug Whaley was out of the building or on leave when every important decision that some have criticized was made. His title also is officially going to be changed from "General Manager" to "Limited or No Manager." Edited January 2, 2017 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 For the most part yea. Other fine details also but that's the idea. I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I saw the presser. It made me scared for the future of the Bills. I was bullish on Whaley at the beginning of the season. I am not so sure anymore. After watching the presser I felt like Whaley is a figurehead GM and not in the loop on anything except scouting players. I have no idea what to think about the future of our Buffalo Bills. Feels like the Pegulas are meddling and unwilling to give up control and yet not qualified to run a franchise properly. C There are only four main jobs an NFL GM is responsible for:1) Settling on a 53 man roster, either through draft, free agency or trade. 2) Being responsible for the overall salary cap. 3) Hiring and firing Head Coaches, although many GMs this is not their role. 4) Assembling a scouting staff on both the college and professional level. That's it. Whaley was in control of three of the four. He wasn't in control of #3 but again, a lot of GMs aren't, especially when they have big name or powerful owners and/or coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GM Yes you have it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GM You're way too unemotional about it. Pound some whiskey, stub your big toe real hard, then listen to the PC...you'll understand. Edited January 2, 2017 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 We are so close!! Ha ha ha. nailed it and yet sooo far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Watch: Doug Whaley's Full Press Conference (38:54) It was bad enough the first time around, will it be any better the second time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Since no one has posted the video... all I have to go by is commentary... Basically the Pegulas hired Rex, Whaley signed off on it. We don't know if Whaley had complaints or not about Rex during the last two seasons. Pegulas fired Rex possibly without consulting Whaley. Whaley is now in charge of this coaching hire. That's basically it, right? Yes, but Whaley was parsing words and flat lying about no complaints about Rex and the Pegulas consulting him. What he insisted on was that the Pegulas held a meeting with Rex only that Whaley wasn't there, and was then told that Rex would no longer be the coach. That was true in all likelihood. But he implied that he never talked to the Pegulas about Rex and never considered whether he should be fired or not. That's just nonsense. Edited January 2, 2017 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yes, but Whaley was parsing words and flat lying about no complaints about Rex and the Pegulas consulting him. What he insisted on was that the Pegulas held a meeting with Rex only that Whaley wasn't there, and was then told that Rex would no longer be the coach. That was true in all likelihood. But he implied that he never talked to the Pegulas about Rex and never considered whether he should be fired or not. That's just nonsense. Good wrap up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GMpretty simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GM They are handing nothing over to the GM. Doug Made it clear that Terry is deciding the head coach and because of "more responsibilities" Russ will supposedly not be involved in the search or decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 They are handing nothing over to the GM. Doug Made it clear that Terry is deciding the head coach and because of "more responsibilities" Russ will supposedly not be involved in the search or decision. Wrong read. Whaley is making the call with the Pegulas giving the stamp of approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Finally watching/listening... The media is a bunch of vultures. I have no issue with Whaley's answers. Some of the stuff he can't answer for professional reasons, come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't understand why everyone is so pissed at Whaley then? Sounds like the new owners wanted to be really hands on, realized it didn't work, and now are handing it over to the GM Yep, and reading between the lines Rex was never his guy, which is why he gets another shot. No issues with that at all from me. Yeah the stuff about not thinking about the firing was weak but the media asked the same questions like twenty times and couldn't comprehend the above. Just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) nailed it and yet sooo far away. The amazing part is rubes still buy it year after year. Chans last year we were 6 and 10 and 4 years later we are 7-9. Feel the momentum. This with all the amazing talent Dougie has brought in. Edited January 2, 2017 by billsfan714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Finally watching/listening... The media is a bunch of vultures. I have no issue with Whaley's answers. Some of the stuff he can't answer for professional reasons, come on. I don't think it's his answers that are the issue but the actual answers to the questions being asked are getting ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Yep, and reading between the lines Rex was never his guy, which is why he gets another shot. No issues with that at all from me. Yeah the stuff about not thinking about the firing was weak but the media asked the same questions like twenty times and couldn't comprehend the above. Just silly. Clearly Whaley must've expressed his reservations about Rex to Terry, and they came true. Then Whaley played the good soldier and did his best to support Rex for two years. When it became clear that Whaley had been right, Terry manned up, fired Rex and gave Whaley the ball. It's the right thing to do but there must've been a better way to deal with all of this from a P.R. standpoint. Edited January 2, 2017 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 It was bad enough the first time around, will it be any better the second time? With a preconceived notion of him as the villain and Rex and a victim, I'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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