Westside Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: For clarity, you WANT a war with Iran? Of course he does. Tibtard is willing to burn this country down if it meant getting rid of Trump. He is a enemy of the US. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, westside2 said: Of course he does. Tibtard is willing to burn this country down if it meant getting rid of Trump. He is a enemy of the US. Trump done stumbled his dumb ass into this very avoidable situation. Oh, those unforced errors sure do hurt. But there won’t be a war for bombing the stupid, sinister Saudis. Who’d go to war for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It’s a global economy so the world really needs independence from oil, not just us. That’s what you want me to want. And no I do not. I actually wanted the Obama nuclear deal to keep going which was working. It worked so well that Trump was telling Iran to stay in the deal after he pulled out of it! <——— please read that last sentence again because it will be something you and all Trump supporters will forget almost immediately. You are the dumbest of the dumbasses. I suppose you think that everyone should be a net exporter of energy, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump done stumbled his dumb ass into this very avoidable situation. Oh, those unforced errors sure do hurt. But there won’t be a war for bombing the stupid, sinister Saudis. Who’d go to war for them? If the Saudis are "sinister", what's Iran? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If the Saudis are "sinister", what's Iran? You deny the evilness of the Saudi regime? The Iranian regime is just as despicable, not sure why we cozy up to either of them. Oh, that’s right, the oil companies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You deny the evilness of the Saudi regime? The Iranian regime is just as despicable, not sure why we cozy up to either of them. Oh, that’s right, the oil companies! That's not an answer. I was just curious as to what you deem Iran if the Saudis are "sinister". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's not an answer. I was just curious as to what you deem Iran if the Saudis are "sinister". What’s your point you do realize this is a Trump created crisis, right? He got all heavy on Iran and now the shooting has really started. I suspect thats why you are trying to make this about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What’s your point you do realize this is a Trump created crisis, right? He got all heavy on Iran and now the shooting has really started. I suspect thats why you are trying to make this about me. Still not an answer. The point is to hear your opinion on Iran. If KSA is "sinister" to you, what is Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Still not an answer. The point is to hear your opinion on Iran. If KSA is "sinister" to you, what is Iran? I think what he’s saying is Iran was really cool and we had nothing to worry about with them because we had everything under control and.....TRUMP BAD!!! Edited September 16, 2019 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Trump: US 'locked and loaded depending on verification' of attack on Saudi oil field "Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!" Trump said. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, ALF said: Trump: US 'locked and loaded depending on verification' of attack on Saudi oil field "Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!" Trump said. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html Following the Kingdoms lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 19 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Still not an answer. The point is to hear your opinion on Iran. If KSA is "sinister" to you, what is Iran? The regime Trump wanted to sit down with? The no preconditions to meeting the leaders? Lol, ok! Still no answer! ? _____ Yemen’s Houthi rebels warn of more attacks on Saudi oil facilities The threat comes days after the group claimed an assault on a refinery belonging to Saudi Arabia’s national oil company. President Trump had said Sunday the United States was “locked and loaded” and ready to respond. By Erin Cunningham, Anne Gearan, Steven Mufson and Kareem Fahim 56 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Couldn't have said it better myself - you go, girl! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi drone attack not launched from Iraqi territory. Kuwait is investigating accounts that a drone intruded into its airspace and flew over the royal palace on the same day the Saudi oil facilities were targeted. Kuwait's Al-Rai newspaper said at dawn on Saturday, an unmanned drone about the size of a small car descended to a height of about 250 metres (820 feet) over the palace, before turning on its lights and flying away. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/saudi-oil-attacks-latest-updates-190916102800973.html That sounds way too sophisticated for Houthi rebels Edited September 16, 2019 by ALF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Couldn't have said it better myself - you go, girl! It would be interesting what her (and your) responses would have been had he gone in “guns a’blazing” before he had more information on who was responsible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Couldn't have said it better myself - you go, girl! Are you not aware of Tulsi's animous against the Saudis? She'd rather side with dictators who gas their own people. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/316430-gabbard-meeting-with-assad-draws-disgust-from-fellow-lawmakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I also have animus against the Saudis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: I also have animus against the Saudis Time to invite the Taliban to Camp David! https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/john-bolton-left-trump-hawkish-iran Quote ormer National Security Advisor John Bolton reportedly left the White House because he opposed President Donald Trump opting to soften his administration’s pressure campaign against Iran. In an Axios report published on Saturday, an unnamed Bolton ally said that Bolton, an outspoken advocate for hawkish foreign policy measures, resigned after Trump told him in a meeting last week that he was considering lifting some sanctions on Iran. After Bolton’s ouster, Trump told the press that he was considering talks with Iranian president Hassan Rouhani on Tehran’s nuclear program and the administration’s sanctions. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo admitted that there were “definitely” areas of disagreement with the ex-national security advisor, but declined to specify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I don't put it past the Saudis to attack their own property (with no casualties of course) to get the United States a little closer to striking Iran. IMO, al-Qaeda and ISIS are their Hezbollah-like creations when they need to get dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Trump lashed out at the media for reporting he would meet with Iran with ‘no conditions.’ He’s said it on camera twice. Trump lashed out at the media for reporting he would meet with Iran with ‘no conditions.’ He’s said as much on camera twice. Add to list President Trump speaks to reporters in the Oval Office of the White House on Wednesday. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post) By John Wagner September 16, 2019 at 7:34 a.m. EDT President Trump lashed out Sunday night at the news media for reporting that he would meet with Iranian leaders with “no conditions” — something Trump has said on camera at least twice and that senior administration officials repeated to reporters just last week. “The Fake News is saying that I am willing to meet with Iran, ‘No Conditions.’ That is an incorrect statement (as usual!),” Trump wrote to his more than 64 million Twitter followers. The Fake News is saying that I am willing to meet with Iran, “No Conditions.” That is an incorrect statement (as usual!). — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 15, 2019 In fact, Trump said as much during a June 23 appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” after host Chuck Todd asked if he had a message to deliver to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, about his country’s potential development of a nuclear weapon. “You can’t have a nuclear weapon. You want to talk? Good. Otherwise you can have a bad economy for the next three years,” Trump said. “No preconditions?” Todd asked. “Not as far as I’m concerned. No preconditions,” Trump replied. WATCH: Trump tells Chuck Todd that he wants to talk with Iran with “no pre-conditions.” #MTP #IfItsSunday pic.twitter.com/kie0I91ZbA — Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) June 23, 2019 That echoed Trump’s comments at a July 30, 2018, joint news conference at the White House during a visit by Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. Asked about a potential meeting with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, Trump said: “I believe in meeting. I would certainly meet with Iran if they wanted to meet. I don’t know if they’re ready yet.” “I’m ready to meet anytime they want to,” Trump added. “No preconditions. If they want to meet, we’ll meet.” President Trump says a meeting with Iran’s President Rouhani could happen with “no preconditions.” Your thoughts? pic.twitter.com/VmJmP3fQv1 — FOX & friends (@foxandfriends) July 31, 2018 During a briefing at the White House on Tuesday, both Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that Trump remained open to such talks. “The president has made clear, he’s happy to take a meeting with no preconditions,” Mnuchin told reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, dpberr said: I don't put it past the Saudis to attack their own property (with no casualties of course) to get the United States a little closer to striking Iran. IMO, al-Qaeda and ISIS are their Hezbollah-like creations when they need to get dirty. My husband said the same thing about the Saudis. I'm not convinced, but never-say-never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, dpberr said: I don't put it past the Saudis to attack their own property (with no casualties of course) to get the United States a little closer to striking Iran. IMO, al-Qaeda and ISIS are their Hezbollah-like creations when they need to get dirty. November 2017 saw the end of that. ISIS and AQ were funded by Bin Talal (and others, including Langley and the western ic) who were rounded up in the purge. KSA of 2019 is not anywhere close to the KSA of even late 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 10:47 AM, Deranged Rhino said: Ben's tweet didn't age very well in 24 hrs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfBubbleGum Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Trump is awesome! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Quote President Donald Trump’s statements on Twitter that the U.S. is “locked and loaded” to retaliate against those responsible for the attack on one of the world’s largest oil fields is adding to the dramatic climb in oil prices, market analysts said Monday. U.S. benchmark oil prices were up nearly 10 percent to $60 a barrel Monday following Trump’s remark late Sunday and a weekend drone attack on Saudi Arabia’s massive oil facilities in Abqaiq and Khurais. The attack forced a production cut of more than half at one of the world’s largest oil fields, and Saudi Arabia has not yet said how long its facilities will remain down. “The oil market is pricing in an additional security risk,” because of the attack, said Andy Lipow, head of oil market analyst firm Lipow Oil Associates. “I don’t think that security risk is going away. I think it’s going to increase, especially given the war of words going on now.” https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/donald-trump-oil-pices-1734085 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Still won't give a straight answer as to your own opinion on Iran. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Saudi Arabia oil facility attack launched from Iranian soil, US officials say Cruise missiles and drones used in the weekend assault on Saudi Arabia's oil installations were launched from Iranian soil, U.S. officials told Fox News on Monday. https://www.foxnews.com/world/saudi-arabia-oil-attack-came-from-iranian-soil-us-officials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Still won't give a straight answer as to your own opinion on Iran. Shame. Trump really screwed up so you want something from me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump really screwed up so you want something from me? Trump is irrelevant to this conversation. I asked you, since you call the Saudis "sinister" what YOU think of Iran. You won't answer. Because you're afraid to. (is the only conclusion one can draw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Trump is irrelevant to this conversation. "Trump Foreign Policy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Trump is irrelevant to this conversation. I asked you, since you call the Saudis "sinister" what YOU think of Iran. You won't answer. Because you're afraid to. (is the only conclusion one can draw). What, you aren't going along with how nearly everyone else here sees him? In polls, he's been 98% pos, 99% dumb and 100% liar. I know he'll probably resent this and maybe get someone to help him with the math but it looks like he's a 297% dumb, lying pieceofshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Trump is irrelevant to this conversation. I asked you, since you call the Saudis "sinister" what YOU think of Iran. You won't answer. Because you're afraid to. (is the only conclusion one can draw). Actually I am irrelevant to the Conversation. We are talking public policy. Trump f'd the bed here and you just want to change the subject. But I can roll with it. ? Still no answer! 7 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: "Trump Foreign Policy" Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Actually I am irrelevant to the Conversation. We are talking public policy. Trump f'd the bed here and you just want to change the subject. But I can roll with it. ? Still no answer! The conversation is between you and me. It started yesterday with me being curious as to your position. Saying you're irrelevant to the conversation is not true. It's just amazing you won't even be honest enough to give an answer on a simple, on topic question. It's enough to make everyone think you're not a serious person worth considering their point. Most already hold that opinion, don't cement it for them. But if you don't want to answer then we'll just go with you think Iran is wonderful. Which shows your ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The conversation is between you and me. It started yesterday with me being curious as to your position. Saying you're irrelevant to the conversation is not true. It's just amazing you won't even be honest enough to give an answer on a simple, on topic question. It's enough to make everyone think you're not a serious person worth considering their point. Most already hold that opinion, don't cement it for them. But if you don't want to answer then we'll just go with you think Iran is wonderful. Which shows your ignorance. Well, ok, I think the Iranian Regime is evil. But didn't I already say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Well, ok, I think the Iranian Regime is evil. But didn't I already say that? You didn't. So which is worse: "sinister" or "evil"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 23 hours ago, Tiberius said: The Iranian regime is just as despicable, not sure why we cozy up to either of them. DR lies again - might be time to start a "DR Lies - Post Them Here" thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Things to watch: Condi keeps doing interviews supporting Trump's policies on Iran. Is this a result of the W/Trump truce at HW's funeral? Or is it a sign that Condi is going to pick up the NSC mantle? Just interesting she's made the rounds two straight weeks on the Sunday shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You didn't. So which is worse: "sinister" or "evil"? It's time to take away Iran's ability to hijack shipping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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