Fadingpain Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 And your prepared for that next 3 year journey? It was all about Carr It need not take 3 years, but if it did, sure! It's been 17 as it is. I can do a few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 This ties into my "FIRE THE FO" topic that was started in Oct. But yes, Terry fire the FO and Rex. Anything less of that will continue the status quo of a ****ty football program. Surprised there's not riots outside OBD yet. I honestly am not down on Whaley Rex? I have this feeling I am going to not like him so much in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Blowing it up does not immediately mean success...... Actually, the more I think about it, the more you might be right. Who is to say that the Bills could successfully blow it up at all!? It might end up like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's not over just yet. Beat Pittsburgh. Get to 10-6 who knows? Nice try Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Blowing it up does not immediately mean success...... No but alternative forever .500 ala Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Do not be the Rams and settle for .500 and tout continuity.Now you're talking sense, nice thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think it's pretty simple. At all costs, any team needs a QB. Once you have one, you build from there. Legit QB at all costs. That's where rebuilding starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 No but alternative forever .500 ala Rams They are staying the course because they have drafted their QB If they blow it up they blow up what is a pretty good defense I can see why they are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think it's pretty simple. At all costs, any team needs a QB. Once you have one, you build from there. Legit QB at all costs. That's where rebuilding starts. And the FO has had ample opportunity too. They didn't next man up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think it's pretty simple. At all costs, any team needs a QB. Once you have one, you build from there. Legit QB at all costs. That's where rebuilding starts. Yup; everything else is noise until they find a QB. It's not possible to compete at the highest level without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 They are staying the course because they have drafted their QB If they blow it up they blow up what is a pretty good defense I can see why they are not Yeah because Fisher was good YEARS ago. Ours well same thing. Let extend him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Here's an interesting discussion point (Bobby, I don't want to hijack the thread but I think it ties in). If we rebuild, what do you get rid of? What do you keep, if anything? What do you replace them with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Yeah because Fisher was good YEARS ago. Ours well same thing. Let extend him Im thinking at this moment in time I could take or leave RR...most likely leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's amazing how a QB that can't close sends an entire fan base into a spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Do not be the Rams and settle for .500 and tout continuity. No, screw continuity, and settle for sub-.500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's not over just yet. Beat Pittsburgh. Get to 10-6 who knows? She's over sir. No way they get to 10 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Here's an interesting discussion point (Bobby, I don't want to hijack the thread but I think it ties in). If we rebuild, what do you get rid of? What do you keep, if anything? What do you replace them with? First I really look at our scouts. Who has been here the entire time and see what players they have identified mainly QBs. Look at their scouting reports. If they identified players properly (even on other teams keep them). Move to Whaley (who I really do like) either give him full control of everything or look at his drafts and ask why he took this guy over a guy that one of the scouts identified etc etc (though I do think Whaley finds good ingredients. Coaching staff I find a coaching staff that will play the 4-3 and has a history of getting Pressure with 4 ala Schwartz. I can David Lee and never let him near a QB again. Find a guy that has a history of developing or being around QBs there are enough of them out there Running development camps and such. HC I actually want a leader of men, someone that has built a staff. Doesn't need to be a former HC in NFL but someone that has a history of building good staffs, you can identify them in college too. And someone that will be innovative I know these are more qualities than names but haven't dug into names yet I do that in offseason. Not sure if that's what you were getting at though. But I also really like Manos but a promote from within I am not sure is gonna fly Edited December 5, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 With Whaley (again someone I do like) there has been enough risk in his draft to start really digging into the risk reward of his drafts. Example Shaq think he is going to be a very good player, but for this Bills team would that have been the right pick. Sammy who I think is an elite talent and will be a very good WR for a long time. Was giving up the assets to go get him when the QB is a huge ? And you have a coach that runs very conservative football really the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 And your prepared for that next 3 year journey? It was all about Carr As for that 3 year journey, here's what I've learned this year: 1. Tyrod is adequate. You MAY be able to get in the playoffs with him sometime during his extension if everything breaks right. 2. Brady and the Pats ain't going away for 3 years. It seems impossible. But to see him performing as well as ever at his age is also impossible. 3. That means staying the course means playing for a wild card, or playing on the possibility that Brady will suffer a major injury or suddenly show his age, Peyton Manning style. This recipe has not brought success in 17 years. So realistically, you're not giving up a whole lot in the present by building for 2020. Sad, yes. But true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Let's see ... Wade Phillips - fire and he killed himself RJ over Doug Flutie set off this curse ... Gregg Williams - hired that didn't work Mike Malarkley - hired that didn't work Dick Juron - hired that didn't work Chan Gailey - hired that didn't work Doug Marone - hired that didn't work Rex Ryan - hired that hasn't worked either From the GM perspective, it's just as pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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