Estro Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I know this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to point out how disappointed fans, coaches and players have the right to be in Marcell Dareus. He's a superb player, but his antics and behavior off the field are a real source of concern to me: Since his extension which paid him over $25M in cash last year and over $15M in cash this year he has been a total disappointment. 1 - Last year he had 2 sacks. That's by far the worst of his career (5.5, 5.5, 7.5, 10, 2). 2 - Takes a banned substance (maybe ADHD, maybe pot) that costs him the first 4 games of this season. 3 - We find out the Bills front office didn't protect themselves financially from massive contract guarantees if Dareus gets suspended, which has happened before. An indictment on the front office here. 4 - Team isn't shy about getting word out that Dareus is going to rehab, only to find out weeks later there was no rehab at all, unless you consider visiting Bruce Smith rehab. Just an odd thing to put out there and then have not happen. Makes me wonder if Dareus kind of "blew off" the PR stunt. 5 - In his first week of practice after week 4 he severely pulls his hamstring costing him the next 2 games and at this point it's looking like possibly more Point #5 really bugs me because a pulled hamstring in practice points toward the fact that his body probably wasn't toned, stretched and ready to go. He looked to be in awful shape pregame and on the sidelines of the Rams game. Looks heavy and soft. I'm hoping he comes out and dominates like he should when he's ready, but I'm just so pissed as a fan that he's not on the field. And with the money the Bills are paying this guy I really think he's on thin ice. There's no more time to tolerate his continued poor decision making, and the only thing he's proven thus far is that he can't be depended on to make good choices, and that's a shame. Just think of what $40M last year and this year could've done for our offense. Your talking about being able to afford some seriously good players in FA for that type of coin. That's part of my philosophy on why I don't want to resign Gilmore for massive $$$. I'd rather save that money and spend it on our offense. I'm still not ready to see Dareus go, but I'm concerned this won't be his last misstep and I think his next might be his last as a Bill, if that makes any sense. Edited October 18, 2016 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I know this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to point out how disappointed fans, coaches and players have the right to be in Marcell Dareus. He's a superb player, but his antics and behavior off the field are a real source of concern to me: Since his extension which paid him over $25M in cash last year and over $15M in cash last year he has been a total disappointment. 1 - Last year he had 2 sacks. That's by far his worst of his career (5.5, 5.5, 7.5, 10, 2). 2 - Takes a banned substance (maybe ADHD, maybe pot) that costs him the first 4 games of this season. 3 - We find out the Bills front office didn't protect themselves financially from massive contract guarantees if Dareus gets suspended, which has happened before. 4 - Team isn't shy about getting word out that Dareus is going to rehab, only to find out weeks later there was no rehab at all, unless you consider visiting Bruce Smith rehab. 5 - In his first week of practice after week 4 he severely pulls his hamstring costing him the next 2 games and at this point it's looking like possibly more Point #5 really bugs me because a pulled hamstring in practice points toward the fact that his body probably wasn't toned, stretched and ready to go. He looked to be in awful shape pregame and on the sidelines of the Rams game. Looks heavy and soft. I'm hoping he comes out and dominates like he should when he's ready, but I'm just so pissed as a fan that he's not on the field every Sunday. And with the money the Bills are paying this guy I really think he's on thin ice. There's no more time to tolerate his continued poor decision making, and the only thing he's proven thus far is that he can't be depended on to make good choices, and that's a shame. In defense of his decision-making, he didn't choose to post the above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If I were Marcel's teammate, I'd be making more money. Its also quite likely that I'd be black based on the percentages. I'd definitely be a lot bigger and probably faster. And after my career ended from a string of brain injuries I'd still probably start better threads than the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) If I was Marcel's teammate I would do 2 chicks at the same time. Edited October 18, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I will hold back my rage until I see is he plays this week If I was Marcel's teammate I would do 2 chicks at the same time. Why are you waiting for that? I dont... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 How bad can it be? "Hey Dareus, go put on your funny shirt....AND BRING ME A F---ING GATORADE, BRUH!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 His teammates don't care and will welcome him back with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) His teammates don't care and will welcome him back with open arms. He's gonna put some hard working, cheaper guys back on the bench. You don't think these guys understand that? Edited October 18, 2016 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It's over dude. This post is several weeks old. Dareus is back, hopefully he's great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He's gonna put some hard working, cheaper guys back on the bench. You don't think these guys understand that? He'll put one cheaper guy back on the bench, or at least reduce his playing time. Maybe he'll be the only one pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He'll put one cheaper guy back on the bench, or at least reduce his playing time. Maybe he'll be the only one pissed. That one guy will get a nice 10 game starting stretch soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 That one guy will get a nice 10 game starting stretch soon enough... Maybe, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Maybe, maybe not. THIS time, he's serious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 THIS time, he's serious.... Back to WEOing about anything since the Bills are on a winning streak. Must be hard for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Back to WEOing about anything since the Bills are on a winning streak. Must be hard for you. Wrong again, my friend! So much so that you make it look easy... Anyway, the streak goes on despite no Dareus, you may have noticed. He's an F'up, for real... Edited October 18, 2016 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Wrong again, my friend! So much so that you make it look easy... Whatever man get your WEO on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 THIS time, he's serious.... Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Whatever man get your WEO on. It's my ADHD man. Got to get to Bruce's place (ahem, I mean "enter rehab), to get my head straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think you should write the Bills and Marcell a strongly worded email. That'll show em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It's my ADHD man. Got to get to Bruce's place (ahem, I mean "enter rehab), to get my head straight. Oh that's just hilarious. You have no future in comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Oh that's just hilarious. You have no future in comedy. I was just recapping recent events. Jokes on us..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito1 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I will be forever upset that (1) Andrew Luck stayed in college, leaving Cam to Carolina (2) Von Miller went #2 and (3) we took Dareus instead of AJ green or Patrick Petersen. Dareus is a great player but DTs don't change games like the other players mentioned and he's had the off field issues Edited October 18, 2016 by tito1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I was just recapping recent events. Jokes on us..... What you're actually doing is making yourself look small. WEO on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 What you're actually doing is making yourself look small. WEO on. Fool us once, shame on us. Fool us twice....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Fool us once, shame on us. Fool us twice....... You don't think we've been fooled more than twice? As Robert Palmer would say - You'd like to think that you're immune to the stuff, oh yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 You don't think we've been fooled more than twice? As Robert Palmer would say - You'd like to think that you're immune to the stuff, oh yeah. Not all are fooled. But there is an endless pile of passes to hand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I will be forever upset that (1) Andrew Luck stayed in college, leaving Cam to Carolina (2) Von Miller went #2 and (3) we took Dareus instead of AJ green or Patrick Petersen. Dareus is a great player but DTs don't change games like the other players mentioned and he's had the off field issues Dareus > Petersen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If Dareus gets suspended he doesn't get paid, what's the issue? He's gonna put some hard working, cheaper guys back on the bench. You don't think these guys understand that? And as a team player they want him back because he helps the team tremendously I will be forever upset that (1) Andrew Luck stayed in college, leaving Cam to Carolina (2) Von Miller went #2 and (3) we took Dareus instead of AJ green or Patrick Petersen. Dareus is a great player but DTs don't change games like the other players mentioned and he's had the off field issues And how's Luck been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) If Dareus gets suspended he doesn't get paid, what's the issue? Other guys on the team may see the obvious double standard for the huge money investment/untradable players like Dareus who screw up time after time and know that no matter how good or hard they play in his absence, they would be cut for the same behavior at any time. Edited October 18, 2016 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Other guys on the team may see the obvious double standard for the huge money investment/untradable players like Dareus who screw up time after time and know that no matter how good or hard they play in his absence, they would be cut for the same behavior at any time. All NFL players not treated equally by their teams? No ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Wrong again, my friend! So much so that you make it look easy... Anyway, the streak goes on despite no Dareus, you may have noticed. He's an F'up, for real... He paid for the damages and did right by the owners of the Mongolian BBQ place. I think you're overreacting a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He paid for the damages and did right by the owners of the Mongolian BBQ place. I think you're overreacting a bit. He's bored and needs to WEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 All NFL players not treated equally by their teams? No ****! Of course they do.. Look, these guys aren't as blind as some fans. They knew he was BS'ing the press and the fans about rehab. They saw him having fun the night before he "entered". They know he forfeited more in 4 games than they might make all year. They see he came back from 4 weeks off and still wasn't ready to play. It goes to the OPs point. I'm not sure if you are pretending not to understand that or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If Dareus gets suspended he doesn't get paid, what's the issue? And as a team player they want him back because he helps the team tremendously And how's Luck been doing? I'd take Luck as the Bills QB in a NY minute!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito1 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If Dareus gets suspended he doesn't get paid, what's the issue? And as a team player they want him back because he helps the team tremendously And how's Luck been doing? Luck was the consensus 1, Cam would've went to Buffalo most likely. He's been doing quite well as the reigning MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So we're still on this huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Other guys on the team may see the obvious double standard for the huge money investment/untradable players like Dareus who screw up time after time and know that no matter how good or hard they play in his absence, they would be cut for the same behavior at any time. So what? It's like that anywhere...the better you are at what you do, the more leeway you have...ask Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, etc... Stop trying to manufacture BS stories Luck was the consensus 1, Cam would've went to Buffalo most likely. He's been doing quite well as the reigning MVP Yeah, real good 1-5 this year...last year he was tremendous...this year not so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So what? It's like that anywhere...the better you are at what you do, the more leeway you have...ask Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, etc... Stop trying to manufacture BS stories "That's the way it is," doesn't make it any less annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito1 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So what? It's like that anywhere...the better you are at what you do, the more leeway you have...ask Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, etc... Stop trying to manufacture BS stories Yeah, real good 1-5 this year...last year he was tremendous...this year not so much... So your point is Cam sucks now - got it. Not even gonna argue with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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