NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 player shouldn't make a difference. What if he had been out injured instead of suspended. 1 player certainly can. and thats why you pay that player $100m - because he is a difference maker. and we hurt badly without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 player certainly can. and thats why you pay that player $100m - because he is a difference maker. and we hurt badly without him. Read above. They can change a game but your coaches knew for awhile now he was out. There is no excuse why they didn't have the team ready and in a position to win even without your best player.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Andy dalton is a better tackler than Gilmore, above average coverage skills, and zero ball skills. I would be dumbfounded if they signed him to any extension. IMO the man sucks and we can get just as much out of Kevin Seymour for a tenth of the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Have to agree Bill. Gilmore looked like he was saving himself for his next contract. He should've been benched. I guess he doesn't buy in. Poor wrecks... His masterful scheme is always held back from awesomeness and world domination by the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) You can't leave corners on an island like that, though. Someone want to tell me what the safeties were up to all night?? Isn't that the benefit of a "shutdown" corner...they can cover their man one on one allowing the safeties to cheat to the other side and help out other DB's? Doesn't Gilmore fancy himself as a "shutdown" corner? Edited September 16, 2016 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Gilmore is a disaster. He's not worth the money. Remind me why they fired Donnie Henderson?Rex knows best!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Read above. They can change a game but your coaches knew for awhile now he was out. There is no excuse why they didn't have the team ready and in a position to win even without your best player.. right - but the ability to win, the odds of that win, the effectiveness of those options... they all go down. Â even with great coaches, it hurts. with bad coaching it hurts worse though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 right - but the ability to win, the odds of that win, the effectiveness of those options... they all go down. Â even with great coaches, it hurts. with bad coaching it hurts worse though. Very true, but with your top player being a pass rusher, wouldn't LOGIC be to call some Blitzes to make up for him not being there... There is bad coaching then there is "WTH are you thinking" coaching last night was the WTH type.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Isn't that the benefit of a "shutdown" corner...they can cover their man one on one allowing the safeties to cheat to the other side and help out other DB's? Doesn't Gilmore fancy himself as a "shutdown" corner? Â Exactly - we should have blitzed... a lot more. probably every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Â Exactly - we should have blitzed... a lot more. probably every play. somehow we managed to both leave our corners on islands AND not get to the qb. Â im curious to see if the pressure packages just werent getting there (even with blitzes, outside hughes we dont have great pass rushers) or the coverages were blown or what.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I thought Preston Brown had a good game. Jerry had a nice sack taken away by a BS call. DBs and safeties were bad. Â Trade or cut Aaron Williams. A safety that can't / won't hit anymore is not worth keeping. Like when the Imlach/Sabres kept Schoenfeld when he decided he wanted to be a regular defenseman and not an enforcer. Just not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I thought Preston Brown had a good game. i felt like i noticed him, semi regularly, stepping up into the wrong hole, then having to work his way back out of the trash to get across to the right gap to make the play. Â hes one of the guys that im curious to see in the all-22 when it comes out. they showcased it the one time on that 8-9 yard run on TV, but i noticed it a couple times too. it mightve just been that i caught him those few times because his going against the flow kind of popped on screen and it wasnt a regular thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not only was Gilmore torched, he seemed to want to tackle people about as much as Mario did last year. The fact is that he was just another bad first round pick by the Bills. And, he is yet another OK player that Whaley tried to shower with money he doesn't/didn't deserve, just like our pair of ex-Bills/Saints. Â If any fan can watch this team and not be sickened by Rex, Whaley, and of course Brandon, I envy you. Â PS: Rex is SO bad that I would consider Jauron to be a superior coach. Gilmore is an average corner, who does not make plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 i felt like i noticed him, semi regularly, stepping up into the wrong hole, then having to work his way back out of the trash to get across to the right gap to make the play. Â hes one of the guys that im curious to see in the all-22 when it comes out. they showcased it the one time on that 8-9 yard run on TV, but i noticed it a couple times too. it mightve just been that i caught him those few times because his going against the flow kind of popped on screen and it wasnt a regular thing though. At least he played aggressively. Our corner's gave cushion all day - and got turned around on underneath stuff. And got beat deep. Gilmore and darby were in position on those deep balls, they just didnt stop the guys from catching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is going to work out well for the Bills. Gilmore is going to bomb in his contract year and re-sign with Buffalo for a reasonable price. Then when the Bills bring in a new DC with a modern scheme he will look good again- just as he did under Schwartz. It's all for the best. You'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Gilmore should be traded now for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Can't give him the big bucks he's after so get something to help with the rebuild. Should have traded him months ago but it can still be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 At least the players are all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) I have to agree with this as well. Gilmore was certainly not aggressive tackling. Y'all just now noticing this? Gilmore sucks at tackling and has ever since he's been a Bill. Instead making a sure tackle, he dives at their feet and hopes they trip over him. Who does he think he is, Dion "They don't pay me to tackle" Sanders? Edited September 16, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It looked to me like Darby got beat on some plays he expected help on while Gilmore just plain got beaten time after time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He was bad. Darby was bad also. Rex's scheme sucks very, very, very badly. This. How do you not blitz all night and your corners are still locked in one on one every play? Dropping seven, you couldn't play zone once in a while? Ryan does not understand pro football in 2016. All Fitz had to do was find the guy in single coverage. Our defense was hung out to dry by the 2005 schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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