Another officer shot...

[mrags]

Prayers to the officer shot and wounded in MO.

 

Stay safe fellow brothers in blue. Watch your backs and each other's.

 

http://fox2now.com/2016/07/08/report-officer-shot-in-ballwin-manhunt-underway/

[Canadian Bills Fan]

WTF is going on!?

 

 

Prayers to every cop in America

 

 

 

 

CBF

[mrags]

WTF is going on!?

 

 

Prayers to every cop in America

 

 

 

 

CBF

i haven't been able to see them since which lead me to believe they were taken down but last night I personally saw a post on FB calling for a "Purge" on all law enforcement. It had times and dates listed for the start of the "event".

 

Everyone should should be extremely careful

[CommonCents]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-gunman-vehicle-shoots-georgia-officer-40429107

 

This was from earlier today.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

i haven't been able to see them since which lead me to believe they were taken down but last night I personally saw a post on FB calling for a "Purge" on all law enforcement. It had times and dates listed for the start of the "event".

 

Everyone should should be extremely careful

 

 

Wow....that is one of the scariest things I have ever heard if true. And judging by the link from Commonsense, it appears it may be true

 

 

 

 

CBF

[mrags]

 

 

Wow....that is one of the scariest things I have ever heard if true. And judging by the link from Commonsense, it appears it may be true

 

 

 

 

CBF

this would make 3 attempts on law enforcement in less than 24 hours. I would say it's pretty close to the truth. And yes, Extremely scary.

[CowgirlsFan]

Prayers to his family and friends.

[John from Riverside]

If this continues this trend it is not going to end well.

 

At the end of the day Police Officers should be able to go home to their families.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

i haven't been able to see them since which lead me to believe they were taken down but last night I personally saw a post on FB calling for a "Purge" on all law enforcement. It had times and dates listed for the start of the "event".

 

Everyone should should be extremely careful

 

if that happens there will be an all out war and even worse is cops will have major distrust of citizens making tensions worse

[mead107]

Gun violence is out of control. It's not just cops being shot. Every day many people are shot. Out of control

5,972 as of 5:00 today

Edited July 8, 2016 by mead107

[BuffaloBill]

Prayers go out for cops and their families

[mrags]

Another officer shot. This one in Tennessee.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/07/08/authorities-tenn-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings/86868164/

[mead107]

5976 as of 7:44 killed by gun

[ExiledInIllinois]

Crazy... Prayers of peace go out.

 

Betcha those puke cops in Minny and LA feel bad that their irresponsible actions incited (not that it is justified by any means!) other pukes to do the unthinkable. Again, it is the zero-sum world we are indoctrinated into. How the eff can we get back to win-win? For the sake of the living and the safety to all... This tit-for-tat BS has to stop, this one victor mentality needs to end before it all goes nuclear.

[frostbitmic]

This is the de-evolution of America .... Wonder what it will be next week.

[ExiledInIllinois]

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

 

I think it takes a reboot with all sides and goes back to what JFK said. That needs to resonate in everyone's heads. It ain't about the individual. It should be about cheerful service to others... @ all costs.

 

That is what I think it should be starting now.

 

Don't take things personal:

 

2. Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.

 

Everybody should brush up on this.

Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois

[mead107]

Gun violence is out of hand

[ALF]

This fans the flames

 

Former Rep. Joe Walsh is under fire after deleting a tweet saying "This is now war" against President Barack Obama and Black Lives Matter protesters following the killing of Dallas police officers.

"3 Dallas Cops killed, 7 wounded. This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you," tweeted Walsh, a former tea party congressman from Illinois and now a conservative talk radio host.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/joe-walsh-obama-war-tweet/index.html

Buffalo police have been ordered to patrol in pairs as a result of threats made against them in a series of social media posts that started following the Dallas police massacre overnight.

“Effective immediately and until further notice, all officers will be assigned to two-man cars,” Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derenda said Friday. “Officers should at all times be aware of their surroundings and exercise extra caution while on duty as well as off duty

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/buffalo-police-to-patrol-in-pairs-in-wake-of-threats-on-social-media-20160708

Edited July 9, 2016 by ALF

[mrags]

And for those that haven't seen it. It would appear that the shooting in MO was not unjust as people may have seen it.

 

Castille, was actually the driver. Had a firearm in his lap, was NOT a concealed carry holder, and was a suspect in a robbery from jist a few days ago.

 

But the media decided to roll with the woman's video as fact before finding the real truth to the whole situation. Blame the media for all this crap.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/confirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-suspect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/

[ExiledInIllinois]

And for those that haven't seen it. It would appear that the shooting in MO was not unjust as people may have seen it.

 

Castille, was actually the driver. Had a firearm in his lap, was NOT a concealed carry holder, and was a suspect in a robbery from jist a few days ago.

 

But the media decided to roll with the woman's video as fact before finding the real truth to the whole situation. Blame the media for all this crap.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/confirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-suspect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/

So it okay that the officer killed him? He deserved to die?

[mead107]

If the guy did not put his hands up and tell the officer he had a gun then yes

Kind of like the 3 girls at U Albany,the white guy started it. Then hold a big rally to show big support for them sayi we did not deserve it. All proved wrong and that they started it. If you're an azz hole your an ****.

[mrags]

So it okay that the officer killed him? He deserved to die?

were you there? Did he make a sudden move for the gun that was in his lap illegally?

[flomoe]

And for those that haven't seen it. It would appear that the shooting in MO was not unjust as people may have seen it.

 

Castille, was actually the driver. Had a firearm in his lap, was NOT a concealed carry holder, and was a suspect in a robbery from jist a few days ago.

 

But the media decided to roll with the woman's video as fact before finding the real truth to the whole situation. Blame the media for all this crap.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/confirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-suspect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/

Again the media fuels the fire to get all this crap going

[ExiledInIllinois]

were you there? Did he make a sudden move for the gun that was in his lap illegally?

There was a live stream of the incident. We were all there.

 

If the officer is that scared handling a routine traffic stop knowing that anybody could be armed in this day and age... Then he is in the wrong job. Who is in control of that traffic stop?

Again the media fuels the fire to get all this crap going

Then blame FaceBook... That live stream was the "media outlet."

 

Is FB now part of the "media conspiracy?"

Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois

[Just Jack]

There was a live stream of the incident. We were all there.

"

The live stream you're seeing did not start until after the shooting. We have not seen anything before it. You should read the entire article Mrags posted, Castile was not the Saint the media is making us believe.

[mrags]

The live stream you're seeing did not start until after the shooting. We have not seen anything before it. You should read the entire article Mrags posted, Castile was not the Saint the media is making us believe.

thank you Jack.

 

And I'll add that just because officers are trained to handle these situations, it doesn't mean that they should be comfortable with them.

 

If you knowingly were in the presence of a suspected armed robber and he had a weapon in his lap and you were the only person standing between freedom and prison... Wouldn't you be a little uneasy?

[mead107]

It always seems that the victims are all upstanding citizens, post pictures of them from years ago all dressed up an looking good right after the incident. Then you find out after everyone has jumped down on the police a few weeks later that they are scumbags who are total azzholes.

Yes there are some bad cops but when you get pulled over you comply. Why do these azzholes think they do not have to comply.

[mrags]

It always seems that the victims are all upstanding citizens, post pictures of them from years ago all dressed up an looking good right after the incident. Then you find out after everyone has jumped down on the police a few weeks later that they are scumbags who are total azzholes.

Yes there are some bad cops but when you get pulled over you comply. Why do these azzholes think they do not have to comply.

exactly Randy,

 

If you were pulled over for doing wrong doing or nothing at all, all it takes is to comply with police. On the side of the road isn't the time to fight your case or argue. You will have your day in court.

 

And let me be clear about this. If you are usually codial and not defensive towards the police they will usually be easier on you.

[ALF]

All Officers should have body cameras with audio going before they approach anyone. No excuse it fell off would be good.

 

The traffic stop in MN is another , did he ask the driver for his license or say don't reach for it ?

 

If the driver is terrified he may not even hear the orders.

[mrags]

All Officers should have body cameras with audio going before they approach anyone. No excuse it fell off would be good.

 

The traffic stop in MN is another , did he ask the driver for his license or say don't reach for it ?

 

If the driver is terrified he may not even hear the orders.

that police department didn't have body cameras yet. They are about $5k or more per camera and storage. Maybe more

[ExiledInIllinois]

exactly Randy,

 

If you were pulled over for doing wrong doing or nothing at all, all it takes is to comply with police. On the side of the road isn't the time to fight your case or argue. You will have your day in court.

 

And let me be clear about this. If you are usually codial and not defensive towards the police they will usually be easier on you.

This! We agree. It is their playground. Surrender and wait for your court date. Unfortunately many will be sitting in the pokery waiting to see the judge.

 

People's game theory skills are way outta whack... Always going high risk, high yield usually gets them worst outcome!

 

Then again... I am not black.

All Officers should have body cameras with audio going before they approach anyone. No excuse it fell off would be good.

 

The traffic stop in MN is another , did he ask the driver for his license or say don't reach for it ?

 

If the driver is terrified he may not even hear the orders.

This.

 

I have been doing my job at The Lock for almost 30 years... I can do it in my sleep. Many people who transit in boats, that don't have practice, etc... Simply can't process things... Even know everything is like watching paint dry and appears so damn easy and procedural!

 

Same with the cops, thet ain't staring at "how the hell am I gonna make court, pay this ticket, etc..." It is their job, they know every bump on the roads in town. People will simpy have blinders on. You think they want the citizenry knowing where they are watching from, when they make shift change, etc... Etc...

Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois

[mead107]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-exchanges-gunfire-georgia-police-officer-141828791.html

[BuffaloBill]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-exchanges-gunfire-georgia-police-officer-141828791.html

That is insane...

[Marv's Neighbor]

People have no R-E-S-P-E-C-T! No respect for themselves, no respect for other humans, no respect for the law, etc., etc. .Till that somehow changes, nothing else will. Sadly, that could take generations.

[ExiledInIllinois]

That is insane...

It sure is! Amazing how humans are pschologically damaged.

 

After 911... You wouldn't believe how many bomb threats poured into where I work. All done over the air on marine radio... Same into the USCG. They had fits trying to figure it out, until the calls (usually every Monday at around 15:00) burned themselves out.

 

People are simply pukes!!! Every wacko comes out of the closet.

 

I agree some of this crap should be surpressed by the media.

Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

People have no R-E-S-P-E-C-T! No respect for themselves, no respect for other humans, no respect for the law, etc., etc. .Till that somehow changes, nothing else will. Sadly, that could take generations.

This.

 

I can argue all day long.

 

My son just made Eagle Scout. Knock the Scouts all anybody wants, but simply live by:

 

Cheerful service to others. (Police are you listening, not just your bros in blue... Citizens are you listening?)

 

Do your best.

 

Do a good turn.

 

Help other people @ all times... Followed by the full Scout Law, Oath, etc.

 

Mix a little God of your choosing and what can go wrong. What could go wrong? Morally straight is quite the sticky issue.

 

Oh yeah.

 

Do unto others... But it all comes back to respecting oneself & others!

[mead107]

You are talking a few interaction between police and scumbags out of let's say 500,000 ( on the low side I would think) interaction every day.

Some are going to turn out bad

[Blokestradamus]

All Officers should have body cameras with audio going before they approach anyone. No excuse it fell off would be good.

 

I would've thought that there would be little objection by clean officers to wearing them. Police forces could use the footage of officers helping people on a daily basis as good PR. As it currently stands, the only footage I see of cops is shot by the people stopped (normally after the reason they're being pulled over).

 

Obviously finances are the biggest issue as to why there aren't mandatory yet.

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

I would've thought that there would be little objection by clean officers to wearing them. Police forces could use the footage of officers helping people on a daily basis as good PR. As it currently stands, the only footage I see of cops is shot by the people stopped (normally after the reason they're being pulled over).

 

Obviously finances are the biggest issue as to why there aren't mandatory yet.

Pay part.

 

I gotta wear steel the shoes, my employer only pays part.

 

Same w/healthcare, I pick up 40%, the Fed 60%.

 

Same w/my pension. 1.5% goes in from me... I will barely see 60% full pay when I retire fron Fed. It is my job to shore up with 401k (TSP)... Others savings, and then SS (we do kick in as FERS employee).

 

Gee, a % of say 5k isn't that bad for on the job equipment needed, safety... Etc... Heck, it might even be tax deductible (union dues, safety equipment).

 

Okay... Say we get that down to 2 grand a cop. Is that bad?

Edited July 9, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois

[mrags]

Pay part.

 

I gotta wear steel the shoes, my employer only pays part.

 

Same w/healthcare, I pick up 40%, the Fed 60%.

 

Same w/my pension. 1.5% goes in from me... I will barely see 60% full pay when I retire fron Fed. It is my job to shore up with 401k (TSP)... Others savings, and then SS (we do kick in as FERS employee).

 

Gee, a % of say 5k isn't that bad for on the job equipment needed, safety... Etc... Heck, it might even be tax deductible (union dues, safety equipment).

 

Okay... Say we get that down to 2 grand a cop. Is that bad?

yeah, now multiply that by about 1.1 million officers in the country.