plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Minor miracle? Come on. If we play 80% of our remaining games without Eichel and O'Reilly, then yes, those playoff percentages are accurate. Otherwise those percentages mean nothing -- they're based on a team that's been injured for a month. those percentages are based on the results since the 3 point game has come into effect.It accounts for the way teams start to play as early as December...playing the 3rd to a standstill so each team gets a point, then fighting over the bonus point. Look at last night, half the friggen games worth 3 points, half worth 2. When a game is worth 3 and between two teams you are trying to chase, really freaking hard to make up ground, even a small number like 4 points. The empirical evidence bears that out over the last 11 years Frustrates me to no end when people say the standings would be the same with a 3-2-1 point system...teams and players would approach the 3rd completely different, there is no way to know right now how the new point would affect changes until you actually enact the change. Think of it this way..since Jack has come back, the Sabres have earned 7 of 10 points..freaking awesome by any measure. I am not 100% positive, but i think they were 4 out of the wild card then, they are 5 out now. And if you go by the magic 95 points and in, if they continue to gain points at 70% clip, they will only get to 98 points. So very little margin of error ! Good article here as well http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/the-race-to-95-points-what-nhl-teams-need-to-do-to-make-playoffs/ Edited December 7, 2016 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 those percentages are based on the results since the 3 point game has come into effect.It accounts for the way teams start to play as early as December...playing the 3rd to a standstill so each team gets a point, then fighting over the bonus point. Look at last night, half the friggen games worth 3 points, half worth 2. When a game is worth 3 and between two teams you are trying to chase, really freaking hard to make up ground, even a small number like 4 points. The empirical evidence bears that out over the last 11 years Frustrates me to no end when people say the standings would be the same with a 3-2-1 point system...teams and players would approach the 3rd completely different, there is no way to know right now how the new point would affect changes until you actually enact the change. Think of it this way..since Jack has come back, the Sabres have earned 7 of 10 points..freaking awesome by any measure. I am not 100% positive, but i think they were 4 out of the wild card then, they are 5 out now. And if you go by the magic 95 points and in, if they continue to gain points at 70% clip, they will only get to 98 points. So very little margin of error ! Good article here as well http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/the-race-to-95-points-what-nhl-teams-need-to-do-to-make-playoffs/ Ya can't argue with math. It will be a challenge for sure, and we can play a lot of the "what if" game with respect to not having Eichel for the 1st quarter of the season, but at least we're watching some fun hockey now. Last night's game was awesome. Lehner has to be sitting there thinking "why not me" with respect to the goal support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ya can't argue with math. It will be a challenge for sure, and we can play a lot of the "what if" game with respect to not having Eichel for the 1st quarter of the season, but at least we're watching some fun hockey now. Last night's game was awesome. Lehner has to be sitting there thinking "why not me" with respect to the goal support. was fun hame last night..i even made it all the way through!!!! I will still watch the vast majority games, and remember that great run the Sens the made a couple years back..and i think the Sabres can do that. My real peeve is with the point system. According to SportsClub Stats..great site BTW Bills playoff chances down 2 games with 4 to play................7.7% Sabres Playoff Chances down 2 games with 52 to play........10.9% NHL needs to get rid of this asinine system ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) @BuffaloSabres What. A. Finish. "It was about time." Full recap: http://bufsabres.co/eQgfgJ Edited December 7, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I was really hoping someone would rough up McDavid after he hacked the goalie for the 75th time. If that was Lehner in net, he would have done a bit more than get in McDavid's face like Nilsson did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 What an odd post? Makes no sense! It was an attempt at humor after Eichel failed to score after scoring in consecutive games. It was satirizing the typical fan reaction to whatever just happened being construed as what always happens. those percentages are based on the results since the 3 point game has come into effect.It accounts for the way teams start to play as early as December...playing the 3rd to a standstill so each team gets a point, then fighting over the bonus point. Look at last night, half the friggen games worth 3 points, half worth 2. When a game is worth 3 and between two teams you are trying to chase, really freaking hard to make up ground, even a small number like 4 points. The empirical evidence bears that out over the last 11 years Frustrates me to no end when people say the standings would be the same with a 3-2-1 point system...teams and players would approach the 3rd completely different, there is no way to know right now how the new point would affect changes until you actually enact the change. Think of it this way..since Jack has come back, the Sabres have earned 7 of 10 points..freaking awesome by any measure. I am not 100% positive, but i think they were 4 out of the wild card then, they are 5 out now. And if you go by the magic 95 points and in, if they continue to gain points at 70% clip, they will only get to 98 points. So very little margin of error ! Good article here as well http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/the-race-to-95-points-what-nhl-teams-need-to-do-to-make-playoffs/ How about a 3-2-1-0 point system? 3 for regulation win, 2 for OT win, 1 for OT loss or shootout win, 0 for shootout loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 @hsjrphoto GALLERY: #Sabres vs #Oilers http://galleries.buffalonews.com/default.aspx?id=7461 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm not worried about the playoff percentages and the implications for every game. If this team can string together a number of successful five game series and get back to reasonable health then the percentages, high or low, will work out in the end. As far as I am concerned if this team can stay in the hunt by the time it reaches the half way point then I'll be satisfied. With Jack in the lineup this team can score and play a fun brand of hockey. Without him in the lineup our scoring goes limp and it becomes tough to watch. It's amazing how one player can be so responsible for a team's collective confidence. That's a tribute to Jack's talent and presence. This is still an incomplete team. Our first line with O'Reilly needs another winger to balance out with Okposo. Carrier is an earnest player but he is in my estimation a third or fourth liner. The Larrson line is not the most talented but it is by far the most cohesive. Steadily, Kane seems to be getting better at meshing with Jack and Reinhardt. If they can learn to play together this line should be our best scoring line. On balance it is clear to me that this team is on an upward trajectory. We can play with the better teams in the league but because of our lack of depth the margin of error is small. In general I'm more than satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 @SabresStats With last night's win over EDM, the #Sabres have their first series sweep of the season! @SabresStats This just in: Scoring goals wins hockey games! The #Sabres are 10-1-3 this season when scoring 2 or more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm not worried about the playoff percentages and the implications for every game. If this team can string together a number of successful five game series and get back to reasonable health then the percentages, high or low, will work out in the end. As far as I am concerned if this team can stay in the hunt by the time it reaches the half way point then I'll be satisfied. With Jack in the lineup this team can score and play a fun brand of hockey. Without him in the lineup our scoring goes limp and it becomes tough to watch. It's amazing how one player can be so responsible for a team's collective confidence. That's a tribute to Jack's talent and presence. This is still an incomplete team. Our first line with O'Reilly needs another winger to balance out with Okposo. Carrier is an earnest player but he is in my estimation a third or fourth liner. The Larrson line is not the most talented but it is by far the most cohesive. Steadily, Kane seems to be getting better at meshing with Jack and Reinhardt. If they can learn to play together this line should be our best scoring line. On balance it is clear to me that this team is on an upward trajectory. We can play with the better teams in the league but because of our lack of depth the margin of error is small. In general I'm more than satisfied. I'm with you 100% on those lines. I'm not exactly sure what route they can look, but finding a winger for the top line would be huge. I'm probably crazy in thinking it, but I still hold out hope for Ennis bringing something to this team. That's really the only option in system to bring some offense to the LW. As for the Larsson line, I really don't like Gionta, but for whatever reason, they're decent. 3 goals in 3 games for Kane. I had little hope in him in recent weeks, as he looked so snake bit out there. I've been worried that his head was shot. If he is waking up, look out. Oh, and then there's the blue line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 @BillHoppeNHL Rasmus Ristolainen played almost 60 minutes in two nights. He wants more. http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/rasmus-ristolainen-clinches-sabres-overtime-win-oilers/ "Could go again (tonight).” #Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Minor miracle? Come on. If we play 80% of our remaining games without Eichel and O'Reilly, then yes, those playoff percentages are accurate. Otherwise those percentages mean nothing -- they're based on a team that's been injured for a month. This. That being said, the team needs to get/stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 @PlayersTribune Five goals. Four kids. One hell of a good time. @JohnScott_32 says goodbye. http://playerstribu.ne/JohnScott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I really don't like Gionta, I don't either..son says it still stems from the tank yer and him scolding fans and me getting pissed at him...and he is prolly right! He almost cost us Jack with that late-season scoring surge he put on, and he sure seemed to have an extra level of try after the infamous Coyotes game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't either..son says it still stems from the tank yer and him scolding fans and me getting pissed at him...and he is prolly right! He almost cost us Jack with that late-season scoring surge he put on, and he sure seemed to have an extra level of try after the infamous Coyotes game. agreed. Those max effort guys can be a real pain in the ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't either..son says it still stems from the tank yer and him scolding fans and me getting pissed at him...and he is prolly right! He almost cost us Jack with that late-season scoring surge he put on, and he sure seemed to have an extra level of try after the infamous Coyotes game. I'd be fine if he was at least 5 years younger. His age shows and he's clearly lost a step. Well ok, the BC factor plays a part too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) I'm with you 100% on those lines. I'm not exactly sure what route they can look, but finding a winger for the top line would be huge. I'm probably crazy in thinking it, but I still hold out hope for Ennis bringing something to this team. That's really the only option in system to bring some offense to the LW. As for the Larsson line, I really don't like Gionta, but for whatever reason, they're decent. 3 goals in 3 games for Kane. I had little hope in him in recent weeks, as he looked so snake bit out there. I've been worried that his head was shot. If he is waking up, look out. Oh, and then there's the blue line... I'm also a fan of Ennis. The problem I foresee is that he is playing for a coach who prefers a tight style of game over a free lance style. My philosophy on team sports is that coaches have to be less rigid and system oriented and more adaptable to the players' strengths and weaknesses. That is one of the reasons why I have so little regard for the cartoonish Rex Ryan. When he took over the reigns he took a strength and made it a weakness in his effort to make it conform to his system. He is the epitome of what happens when you hire stupid people who don't have the self-awareness to recognize how stupid they are. (I apologize for the diversion but this loquacious coach gets me fired up!!!! I'm not as pessimistic about our defense as you are, although I recognize that additions have to eventually be made. Kulokov should be back shortly and Bogo maybe in a few weeks. Guhle has demonstrated in his call up that he can play and by next year he will be an established NHLer. In addition, I'm high on McCabe (Simon is not) in that although he is not going to be an elite player he has demonstrated to me that he is going to be a good player. The more he plays the better he gets and the broader his game gets. So in general I'm not as critical as this unit as most others are. For me it is fun watching a team being pieced together after having it completely torn down. With regularity the additions are working out and now the elevator is moving up. Edited December 7, 2016 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 agreed. Those max effort guys can be a real pain in the ass... Hate them too...especially in a tank year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 @tsnscottcullen Statistically Speaking: Sabres' Ristolainen is rising; Schwartz, Laine, Mason and more. http://bit.ly/ssnhl1207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm not as pessimistic about our defense as you are, although I recognize that additions have to eventually be made. Kulokov should be back shortly and Bogo maybe in a few weeks. Guhle has demonstrated in his call up that he can play and by next year he will be an established NHLer. In addition, I'm high on McCabe (Simon is not) in that although he is not going to be an elite player he has demonstrated to me that he is going to be a good player. The more he plays the better he gets and the broader his game gets. So in general I'm not as critical as this unit as most others are. I was thinking about the D in it's current state when I made that comment. I don't even have much to say about them but it's amazing how thin things are right now. They'll certainly be better once they get the bodies back, however long that is supposed to be. Still, there's not much there when the injuries pop up again. Guhle won't be an option at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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