nucci Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Keep the blinders on all you want, but if we dont figure out an alternative to a hard cap or learn to stay under it, we may not have a team this year. But keep drinkin' the NFL koolaid, and then throw your vote away on Rand Paul. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I think this thread should be locked at this point to avoid further embarrassment especially for Fergy ;-) it is not me made suggestion to trade Mario for Skelton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Maybe you're talking about cash? Last year the cap was $143 million but the Bills cash spending was around $150 million. That was a March total, they spent even more cash before the season on draft picks plus other signings. Edited March 3, 2016 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I see so many teams signing their best players year after year (you telling me Bob Kraft isn't paying some luxury tax to the NFL for signing Brady to another extension)...what about the Steelers (Big Ben, L. Bell, WR's etc), the Broncos (with Manning, Von Miller, D. Thomas). The list goes on and on of teams that are paying a luxury tax because they go over the salary cap. The article I read awhile ago said the owners approved a bastardized version of the NBA and MLB luxury tax, so why not go ahead and spend money on our good players to retain them and to attract bigger stars. The rule is in place for a reason...pay a little tax if you go over the cap and, in exchange, you get good players. It's a pride thing. He doesn't want to be seen as a billionaire who is asking for a handout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Keep the blinders on all you want, but if we dont figure out an alternative to a hard cap or learn to stay under it, we may not have a team this year. But keep drinkin' the NFL koolaid, and then throw your vote away on Rand Paul. I feel like we are in an alternative universe. What the heck are you talking about? We've never been over the cap...ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lol. This is certainly a crayonz like post. Ha. That's true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 I feel like we are in an alternative universe. What the heck are you talking about? We've never been over the cap...ever Like referenced above by someone, Pegula is a millionaire and doesn't want to appear pushy or overbearing. So assuming he does have the extra 27 million that the league allows, he can trickle it into players with pool tables, gourmet lunches in the cafeteria and Evian waters instead of Mayer Brothers or Wegmans. See, those are just small examples of how he can re-work the cap without technically violating the 155 cap and the 27 million soft luxury use tax. Another option: put more starters on the practice squad. They don't count toward the cap so we could stockpile players on the practice squad and when we need them, deliver a few backpacks of cash and call them up. No cap money to report and they don't get injured as often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Like referenced above by someone, Pegula is a millionaire and doesn't want to appear pushy or overbearing. So assuming he does have the extra 27 million that the league allows, he can trickle it into players with pool tables, gourmet lunches in the cafeteria and Evian waters instead of Mayer Brothers or Wegmans. See, those are just small examples of how he can re-work the cap without technically violating the 155 cap and the 27 million soft luxury use tax. Another option: put more starters on the practice squad. They don't count toward the cap so we could stockpile players on the practice squad and when we need them, deliver a few backpacks of cash and call them up. No cap money to report and they don't get injured as often. Ok, I know sometimes I'm a little slow. It's hard to tell in print as opposed to face to face what someone really means. It's obvious this whole thread was one big joke to see how long this irrational discussion could go on. Well done. For a little while, I just thought you were a total moron. You played us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I see so many teams signing their best players year after year (you telling me Bob Kraft isn't paying some luxury tax to the NFL for signing Brady to another extension)...what about the Steelers (Big Ben, L. Bell, WR's etc), the Broncos (with Manning, Von Miller, D. Thomas). The list goes on and on of teams that are paying a luxury tax because they go over the salary cap. The article I read awhile ago said the owners approved a bastardized version of the NBA and MLB luxury tax, so why not go ahead and spend money on our good players to retain them and to attract bigger stars. The rule is in place for a reason...pay a little tax if you go over the cap and, in exchange, you get good players. +10,000 posts = sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Another option: put more starters on the practice squad. They don't count toward the cap so we could stockpile players on the practice squad and when we need them, deliver a few backpacks of cash and call them up. No cap money to report and they don't get injured as often. This line gives the game away.... well done BBF. I think a lot of us fell for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) BBF is just joking, but I wonder about Brady's pay In 2016 Brady is #20 on the list of highest paid QBs ? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/quarterback/ What prevents teams from going over the Salary Cap? The short answer is that teams can’t because the league approves all contracts and would not approve a contract that would result in a team going over the Cap. There have been a couple of instances where teams were discovered to have agreed to payments to players that circumvented the Salary Cap. The Pittsburgh Steelers and San Francisco 49ers were penalized draft picks and fined for agreeing to undisclosed, non-contract payments to players. http://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ Edited March 3, 2016 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I thought this was a link to that epic thread! Do me a favor could you find that link for me and post it? Let me get this straight. You're asking me to do your homework in finding the "Do your own homework, Sue" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Let me get this straight. You're asking me to do your homework in finding the "Do your own homework, Sue" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 To answer the thread title: For the same reason I don't take up the Victoria's Secret models' repeated invitations to their slumber parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 To answer the thread title: For the same reason I don't take up the Victoria's Secret models' repeated invitations to their slumber parties. Wait … what? The Pegulas are gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I actually support Fergy's idea 100%. Not to mention in two years when the team moves to Hamilton (at this point, its not an if but a when. See: Population Stipulation.), That tax will be 60¢ on the dollar with the way the Looney is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 I actually support Fergy's idea 100%. Not to mention in two years when the team moves to Hamilton (at this point, its not an if but a when. See: Population Stipulation.), That tax will be 60¢ on the dollar with the way the Looney is right now. OK, let's suppose Pegula does, in fact, have to move the Bills to Hamilton, ONT (because the Sabres have been in place longer in Buffalo and have a smaller seating capacity in their arena), would Pegula be granted a higher soft luxury use tax by the NFL because of the driving distance from Buffalo to Hamilton (i.e. gas mileage, tolls, traffic delays, time, etc. for players, trainers and coaches)? It's gonna become a real mess in three years. The only bright spot is the fact that Pegula can exceed the cap if (and when) they make the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Thought this thread was dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 OK, let's suppose Pegula does, in fact, have to move the Bills to Hamilton, ONT (because the Sabres have been in place longer in Buffalo and have a smaller seating capacity in their arena), would Pegula be granted a higher soft luxury use tax by the NFL because of the driving distance from Buffalo to Hamilton (i.e. gas mileage, tolls, traffic delays, time, etc. for players, trainers and coaches)? It's gonna become a real mess in three years. The only bright spot is the fact that Pegula can exceed the cap if (and when) they make the move. As long as they sign the contract IN Canada, the NFL has no legal grounds to enforce the salary cap. Why do you think Doug Whaley's extension was signed on his boat. They took it 15 miles offshore, out of US territory, before they signed it. They were "testing the waters" so to speak (no pun intended) of this useful loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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