Bocephuz Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 All fair points and I apologize if I jumped to conclusions regarding your intentions. But I had detected a favorable bias in your posts re: TT and thought that his article today annoyed you cos it did not fit your analysis. Peace out. I second that wholeheartedly. How do you un-watch something so hideous ? right on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Examples with articles? Ever try to search the BN archive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 prove it. Ha. I don't have to. You did it for me. Thanks, my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I come here for all my Bills needs. Sully is a dinosaur. The younger guys are following, unfortunately, in his footsteps rather than Kelley or Felser. In today's media, again unfortunately, it's about opinions and who can be the most outrageous rather than being a good, keen observer and reporter. And I'm older not, I don't need to read what they report or say if I watched the game. I read politics and government articles because I don't attend meetings but if I did, I wouldn't read them either. Just have zero need for someone's opinion on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Ever try to search the BN archive? ARTICLE PROMOTING IDEA OF SIGNING ORTON TO A LONG TERM EXTENSION - Nov 2, 2014 http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com/2014/11/02/orton-has-time-on-his-side/ The Bills would be wise to approach his agent soon and explore the possibility of an extension. I could see him being the starter for two or three more years and serving as a mentor for his eventual successor. ARTICLE WRITTINEN 2 WEEKS LATER http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/11/15/now-may-be-time-for-manuels-return/ That’s wishful thinking. I’d put Manuel back in now. I’ll admit, I was too quick to anoint Orton as a short-term answer. I should have waited to see if he could do what so many other Bills QBs had failed to do before him – win big games in the second half of a season. __ __ Umm.. yeah... problem is Jerry you are usually too quick in making these kind of statements. I do retract my previous accusation of him not acknowledging his previous statement however ( my apologies) Still doesn't change the fact that he lost all credibility with me after this series of articles. I realize he is the "opinion" guy and Dunne is the nuts and bolts guy.. but if you're going to voice an opinion don't bail on it after 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Ever try to search the BN archive? If you can't provide examples then you are as bad as what you accuse Sullivan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 ARTICLE PROMOTING IDEA OF SIGNING ORTON TO A LONG TERM EXTENSION - Nov 2, 2014 http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com/2014/11/02/orton-has-time-on-his-side/ The Bills would be wise to approach his agent soon and explore the possibility of an extension. I could see him being the starter for two or three more years and serving as a mentor for his eventual successor. ARTICLE WRITTINEN 2 WEEKS LATER http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/11/15/now-may-be-time-for-manuels-return/ That’s wishful thinking. I’d put Manuel back in now. I’ll admit, I was too quick to anoint Orton as a short-term answer. I should have waited to see if he could do what so many other Bills QBs had failed to do before him – win big games in the second half of a season. __ __ Umm.. yeah... problem is Jerry you are usually too quick in making these kind of statements. I do retract my previous accusation of him not acknowledging his previous statement however ( my apologies) Still doesn't change the fact that he lost all credibility with me after this series of articles. I realize he is the "opinion" guy and Dunne is the nuts and bolts guy.. but if you're going to voice an opinion don't bail on it after 2 weeks. At least he admitted his 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) At least he admitted his 180. Yes.. I give him credit for that. I would think most professional journalists would think a few steps ahead before making that kind of statement in print.. contingency planning so to speak. Like .. ok.. if I go out on a limb here then how will I react if he is really bad for the next 2 games.... next 4 games... rest of the season etc.??? If your statement doesn't hold up for those conditions.. then don't make it. There are ways to hedge your opinions. Sullivan is too lazy to think strategically and hedge his phraseology and he would rather do a 180 and apologize after the fact than put in a few extra minutes of planning before writing his article. " An ounce of prevention prevents a gallon of blood." Edited November 20, 2015 by Bocephuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Often times I see a BN headline and click on it.. and when I see the author is Jerry Sullivan I automatically close it out .. skip it.. and don't even bother to read it. Anyone else? Yes, on both Sully and Bucky Gleason's articles. Those two are terrible hacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I almost always skip Sullivan. He strikes me as both over-critical and self agrandizing. I started to skim the TT article, but stopped: I don't need him to tell me that Taylor hasn't yet proven himself to be a franchise QB. After all, who legitimately can be called a franchise QB after seven NFL starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) I read Sully for the same reason I listen to WGR - so I'll have some context for all the "hate" threads. Lot of them to keep up on! Maybe they should be pinned....? Edited November 20, 2015 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 No, which is why I called him lazy. But his job is to get people talking and reading and he's good at it. I bet his bosses love him even when 90% of his readership seems to hate him. Maybe so. That's why I don't click on him. I don't even enjoy hating him. He's too boring to hate, for me. He's just bad. Though I guess we are talking about him in this thread, so you got me there. Hopefully the BN doesn't see this thread - wouldn't want to encourage them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 I almost always skip Sullivan. He strikes me as both over-critical and self agrandizing. I started to skim the TT article, but stopped: I don't need him to tell me that Taylor hasn't yet proven himself to be a franchise QB. After all, who legitimately can be called a franchise QB after seven NFL starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Nope. I like his articles. Never understood the hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I never give him a click. I don't feel that he believes many of the opinions he presents as his own, and merely tries to stir up interest. I can get anything he has to offer, elsewhere on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Anyone else continuing to get ticked off when Sully says all the stats TT got in the 1st Pat's game was in 'garbage time'??!! IMO there is no such thing as 'garbage time' when you're down by one score with 4-5 minutes to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Often times I see a BN headline and click on it.. and when I see the author is Jerry Sullivan I automatically close it out .. skip it.. and don't even bother to read it. Anyone else? Damn straight that's me. I wish we could persuade SDS and whoever else is linking the articles to put the author after the title so that I could do a better job at "see and avoid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 i do the same when i see these threads. jw Good one! Love the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Anyone else continuing to get ticked off when Sully says all the stats TT got in the 1st Pat's game was in 'garbage time'??!! IMO there is no such thing as 'garbage time' when you're down by one score with 4-5 minutes to go! One of the reporters, perhaps Jerry himself because that is what he is wont to do, at some point after the game asked Tyrod about the garbage time. Tyrod said that the entire game the Pats were playing the same defense and coverages and there was no difference between when it was close and when we were down 24. It surely was no difference on offense whatsoever so why would he change the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Anyone else continuing to get ticked off when Sully says all the stats TT got in the 1st Pat's game was in 'garbage time'??!! IMO there is no such thing as 'garbage time' when you're down by one score with 4-5 minutes to go! That's my beef with the whole concept of "garbage time". If you're down by a bunch of scores and you come back and win, it's a brilliant come-from-behind victory and no one mentions garbage time. If you come back enough to put a good scare into the opponent coach's undershorts, but you fall short.....then it's either "garbage time" or a comeback that fell short, who makes the call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That's my beef with the whole concept of "garbage time". If you're down by a bunch of scores and you come back and win, it's a brilliant come-from-behind victory and no one mentions garbage time. If you come back enough to put a good scare into the opponent coach's undershorts, but you fall short.....then it's either "garbage time" or a comeback that fell short, who makes the call? I guess Sully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I am pretty sure you wrote this after seeing the title and synopsis of his article on TT. I dont automatically take a pass on his articles, I do read it just to see what he has to say. Most of the times he is wrong. There is little to argue about on his Taylor article today. For all the good that Taylor has done, he appears to be a player of halves. too often, brilliant halves are masked by atrocious ones. I am not ready to buy into him as a long term answer. Just the best we have right now. Speaking just for myself, even a busted clock is right twice a day and when I do read Sully opinion pieces I find good points. With regard to Tyrod Taylor,I see a lot of promise, and I see some of the same mistakes we excoriate EJ for...failing to spot open guys, off target throws, rolling out of the pocket when he could step up, the occasional dumb ass pick, taking sacks when he should throw it away. He's young as a player, he's showing promise, but he's far from "mistake free" and I would like to see some continued development before we invest heavily in him as the future of the franchise. Even when I find good points in Sully pieces though, the portentious way he makes them and also the way he mixes in totally unsupported opinion just irritates me, which is why I prefer to avoid his stuff. De gustibus non disputandum and all that i do the same when i see these threads. jw I just love the taste of irony in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Never. I do automatically skip by many poster's posts on here though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No, I always read his articles. Entertaining writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltos best Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Often times I see a BN headline and click on it.. and when I see the author is Jerry Sullivan I automatically close it out .. skip it.. and don't even bother to read it. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Often times I see a BN headline and click on it.. and when I see the author is Jerry Sullivan I automatically close it out .. skip it.. and don't even bother to read it. Anyone else? I do exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Reading through the headlines today, pretty easy to spot Dunne's latest piece no? Enjoy this guy while he is here, got a feeling bigger markets are calling soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Sully seems to me to be much like all of us: Sometimes what he writes earns a nod of agreement, and sometimes a negative shake of the head. His column presents his opinion, much as we bring our opinions and biases when we read him or any other columnist. So, read him or don't read him.... Edited December 6, 2015 by Keukasmallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Sully is better than either Sal....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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