Refugee Crisis in the U. S. (?)

[keepthefaith]

What happens, when/if refugees are let in who ultimately commit acts of violence and/or terrorism?

 

What happens then? Who is held accountable?

Same people that are accountable when illegal immigrants commit crimes. Republicans as others have said or a system that needs to be reformed.

 

Obama sucks worse by the month.

[B-Man]

Exclusive: US May Have Let 'Dozens' of Terrorists Into Country As Refugees - ABC News - http://abcn.ws/1ehMX3t via @ABC

 

 

Reminder: White House Launches #REFUGEESWELCOME Hashtag

 

 

 

 

 

 

Refugee ‘Religious Test’ Is ‘Shameful’ and ‘Not American’ … Except that Federal Law Requires It

By Andrew McCarthy

As I argued in Faithless Execution, the principal constitutional duty of the chief executive is to execute the laws faithfully. President Obama, by contrast, sees his principal task as imposing his post-American “progressive” preferences, regardless of what the laws mandate.

In his latest harangue against Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) and other Americans opposed to his insistence on continuing to import thousands of Muslim refugees from Syria and other parts of the jihad-ravaged Middle East, Obama declaimed:

When I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which a person who’s fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted … that’s shameful…. That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.

Really? Under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum. Under the provision governing asylum (section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code), an alien applying for admission

must establish that … religion [among other things] … was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

Moreover, to qualify for asylum in the United States, the applicant must be a “refugee” as defined by federal law. That definition (set forth in Section 1101(a)(42)(A) of Title , U.S. Code) also requires the executive branch to take account of the alien’s religion:

The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality … and who is unable or unwilling to return to … that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of … religion [among other things] …[.]

The law requires a “religious test.” And the reason for that is obvious. Asylum law is not a reflection of the incumbent president’s personal (and rather eccentric) sense of compassion. Asylum is a discretionary national act of compassion that is directed, by law not whim, to address persecution.

There is no right to emigrate to the United States. And the fact that one comes from a country or territory ravaged by war does not, by itself, make one an asylum candidate. War, regrettably, is a staple of the human condition. Civil wars are generally about power. That often makes them violent and, for many, tragic; but it does not necessarily make them wars in which one side is persecuting the other side.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/427262/refugee-religious-test-shameful-and-not-american-except-federal-law-requires-it-Andrew

How can something American law requires be “not American”?

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[TakeYouToTasker]

 

How can something American law requires be “not American”?

Two words:

 

"Individual Mandate"

[B-Man]

Obama doesn't want the conversation to be about his bad ISIS strategy. He wants it about supposed Republican intolerance.

 

 

More:

 

BREAKING: Honduras detains five Syrians traveling on stolen Greek passports who were headed toward U.S.: police http://reut.rs/1O3gy4z

 

Say Barack.............they don't look like "widows and orphans"

 

 

Why am I posting from Right-wing hate sites like ABC News and Reuters...........

 

 

I'm just glad to hear French authorities neutralized Republican Rhetoric before it could strike again. - Sean Davis

 

 

 

 

#RefugeesWelcome

[DC Tom]

No need to worry about national security...............the administration is on it.

 

 

White House Launches #REFUGEESWELCOME Hashtag

 

 

But...but...but...WHY?????? What the !@#$ does this accomplish?

 

!@#$ it. I'm responding to this with the hashtag #BRAWNDOHASELECTROLYTES.

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

But...but...but...WHY?????? What the !@#$ does this accomplish?

 

!@#$ it. I'm responding to this with the hashtag #BRAWNDOHASELECTROLYTES.

It's about the politics, that's it.

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

Obama doesn't want the conversation to be about his bad ISIS strategy. He wants it about supposed Republican intolerance.

 

 

More:

 

BREAKING: Honduras detains five Syrians traveling on stolen Greek passports who were headed toward U.S.: police http://reut.rs/1O3gy4z

 

Say Barack.............they don't look like "widows and orphans"

 

 

Why am I posting from Right-wing hate sites like ABC News and Reuters...........

 

 

I'm just glad to hear French authorities neutralized Republican Rhetoric before it could strike again. - Sean Davis

 

 

 

 

#RefugeesWelcome

Why were they in Honduras? They they trying to sneak in the in protected southern border in detected?

 

But...but...but...WHY?????? What the !@#$ does this accomplish?

 

!@#$ it. I'm responding to this with the hashtag #BRAWNDOHASELECTROLYTES.

I'm convinced we are getting closer to idiocracy by the day.

 

Oh look a kitten video!

[B-Man]

When liberals say #refugeeswelcome show them this

 

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

Obama doesn't want the conversation to be about his bad ISIS strategy. He wants it about supposed Republican intolerance.

 

Have you ever seen a president act more pathetic than what you're watching from Obama on the world stage right now?

 

Is it possible to be any more petulant?

 

Hundreds are dead in Paris, and the only arrow in the quiver is to mock the Republican candidates.

 

You progressives are going to be eating his mistakes for years. Your best hope is that a Republican wins 2016 so you can blame him or her for all of Obama's incompetence when the schittstorm starts to unravel.

[B-Man]

Obama's "Very Rigorous" Syrian Refugee Entrance Form

 

#RefugeesWelcome

[4merper4mer]

Obama's "Very Rigorous" Syrian Refugee Entrance Form

 

#RefugeesWelcome

That is available in 241 languages at all entry points.

[IDBillzFan]

You know what blows the mind: one of the Paris terrorists was rescued off that sinking vessel of refugees some weeks back.

 

Now you're telling me that, after all those Paris deaths, you still want the US to just take tens of thousands of refugees in because we're trying to be nice?

 

You have to be a dumbass of epic proportions to think bringing them here unchecked is a good idea.

[keepthefaith]

Newly elected Canadian PM Trudeau wants to take in 25K refugees.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-syria-refugees-settlement-groups-1.3291959

Obama threatens to veto house bill to improve refugee screenings. Just like our southern border, Obama doesn't care who comes in.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/18/obama-threatens-to-veto-bill-strengthening-syrian-refugee-screening/?intcmp=hpbt1

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

Newly elected Canadian PM Trudeau wants to take in 25K refugees.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-syria-refugees-settlement-groups-1.3291959

 

Obama threatens to veto house bill to improve refugee screenings. Just like our southern border, Obama doesn't care who comes in.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/18/obama-threatens-to-veto-bill-strengthening-syrian-refugee-screening/?intcmp=hpbt1

Yup definitely don't want to know who is coming into our country or keeping us safe.

 

He is getting what he wants more instability and taking America down a peg

 

Keep the fundamental transformation going.

[B-Man]

NBC Nightly NewsVerified account ‏@NBCNightlyNews 2h2 hours ago

JUST IN: White House says Pres. Obama would veto a House bill targeting changes to Syrian refugee processing

 

So, the White House will veto *any* measures to strengthen the screening process?

Golly, I bet vulnerable 2016 Congressional Dems can't wait for that vote....................

.

[DC Tom]

You know what blows the mind: one of the Paris terrorists was rescued off that sinking vessel of refugees some weeks back.

 

Now you're telling me that, after all those Paris deaths, you still want the US to just take tens of thousands of refugees in because we're trying to be nice?

 

You have to be a dumbass of epic proportions to think bringing them here unchecked is a good idea.

 

Not just trying to be nice. If we identify terrorists and let them in, we gain a valuable source of intel.

 

Not that Obama's thinking that way. But a sane, rational person would.

 

 

 

Obama threatens to veto house bill to improve refugee screenings. Just like our southern border, Obama doesn't care who comes in.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/18/obama-threatens-to-veto-bill-strengthening-syrian-refugee-screening/?intcmp=hpbt1

 

Of course, the House's screening bill is bull ****, and should be vetoed.

 

But Obama's justification for a veto - that it would delay the existing screening program - is equally bull ****. OF COURSE it will. It changes the screening. That's the !@#$ing point. "I'll veto this legislation because it does what it claims" is nonsense meant for consumption by the addle-brained.

 

The bottom line is that this pissing match is meaningless. It's a political exercise where each side is dissembling in trying to make sure the other side is stuck with the issue.

[B-Man]

Walter Russell Mead has a terrific piece in the American Interest on "President Obama's Cynical Refugee Ploy."

Highlights:

 

To see the full cynicism of the Obama approach to the refugee issue, one has only to ask President Obama’s least favorite question: Why is there a Syrian refugee crisis in the first place?

Obama’s own policy decisions —

allowing Assad to convert peaceful demonstrations into an increasingly ugly civil war, refusing to declare safe havens and no fly zones—were instrumental in creating the Syrian refugee crisis. This crisis is in large part the direct consequence of President Obama’s decision to stand aside and watch Syria burn. For

him to try and use a derisory and symbolic program to allow 10,000 refugees into the United States in order to posture as more caring than those evil Jacksonian rednecks out in the benighted sticks is one of the most cynical, cold-blooded, and nastily divisive moves an American President has made in a long time....

To think that conspicuous moral posturing and holy posing over a symbolic refugee quota could turn President Obama from the goat to the hero of the Syrian crisis is absurd. Wringing your hands while Syria turns into a hell on earth, and then taking a token number of refugees, can be called many things, but decent and wise are not among them. You don’t have to be a xenophobe or a racist or even a Republican to reject this President’s leadership on Syria policy. All you need for that is common sense and a moral compass....

For no one, other than the Butcher Assad and the unspeakable al-Baghdadi, is as responsible for the humanitarian catastrophe in Syria as is President Obama. No one has committed more sins of omission, no one has so ruthlessly sacrificed the well-being of Syria’s people for his own ends, as the man in the White House. In all the world, only President Obama had the ability to do anything significant to prevent this catastrophe; in all the world no one turned his back so coldly and resolutely on the suffering Syrians as the man who sits in the White House today—a man who is now lecturing his fellow citizens on what he insists is their moral inferiority before his own high self-esteem.

 

 

 

 

Read the whole

thing

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[Deranged Rhino]

You know what blows the mind: one of the Paris terrorists was rescued off that sinking vessel of refugees some weeks back.

 

Now you're telling me that, after all those Paris deaths, you still want the US to just take tens of thousands of refugees in because we're trying to be nice?

 

You have to be a dumbass of epic proportions to think bringing them here unchecked is a good idea.

 

Asking because I've been out of the news cycle (but for headlines) this week: I thought it had been confirmed the attackers in Paris were all French nationals? I remember reading about the guy who was saved but thought that had been debunked?

[Nanker]

Breitbart is reporting eight Syrians were caught at the Texas border.

[unbillievable]

"A stranger is just a friend you haven't met. "

[GG]

 

Asking because I've been out of the news cycle (but for headlines) this week: I thought it had been confirmed the attackers in Paris were all French nationals? I remember reading about the guy who was saved but thought that had been debunked?

 

From WSJ: A body of an attacker who blew himself up was found with a Syrian passport with the name Ahmad AlMohammad. Authorities have confirmed the passport is fake. Fingerprints taken from his remains match the prints of a man who entered Europe via the Aegean island of Leros on Oct. 3.

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

 

From WSJ: A body of an attacker who blew himself up was found with a Syrian passport with the name Ahmad AlMohammad. Authorities have confirmed the passport is fake. Fingerprints taken from his remains match the prints of a man who entered Europe via the Aegean island of Leros on Oct. 3.

Don't worry I'm sure he is the only "non refugee" mixed in with these helpless women and children.

Breitbart is reporting eight Syrians were caught at the Texas border.

Allegedly with forged Greek documents

"A stranger is just a friend you haven't met. "

 

until they are sawing your head off with a dull knife.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

From WSJ: A body of an attacker who blew himself up was found with a Syrian passport with the name Ahmad AlMohammad. Authorities have confirmed the passport is fake. Fingerprints taken from his remains match the prints of a man who entered Europe via the Aegean island of Leros on Oct. 3.

 

Thanks for the link.

[GG]

House passes a bill limiting admissions from Syria & Iraq, with strong bipartisan support.

[TakeYouToTasker]

House passes a bill limiting admissions from Syria & Iraq, with strong bipartisan support.

 

It doesn't matter. Policy doesn't spring from law anymore.

 

It springs from the pen and phone of the executive administrative state.

[IDBillzFan]

House passes a bill limiting admissions from Syria & Iraq, with strong bipartisan support.

 

It looks to be veto-proof out of the house.

 

Someone needs to change their headline from "France is ready to accept more refugees, but Republicans are not."

[B-Man]

 

It looks to be veto-proof out of the house.

 

Someone needs to change their headline from "France is ready to accept more refugees, but Republicans are not."

 

 

That will be the headline..........................even with the bipartisan, democrat support...........................

 

 

 

 

 

ADDED: President Obama responds to the House vote...............

 

 

#RefugeesWelcome

Edited November 19, 2015 by B-Man

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

It looks to be veto-proof out of the house.

 

Someone needs to change their headline from "France is ready to accept more refugees, but Republicans are not."

 

Again, it doesn't matter. This will be handled through the executive administrative state.

 

The Obama administration will simply say that they believe they have the Constitutional authority to disregard Congress in these matters, as this responsibility can be comfortably found within the purview of the Executive branch. The administration will do as it pleases, knowing well that it will take years for Constitutional challenges to surface in a court setting, and their will having been done, and President Obama long out of office, before anyone can rule.

 

Even if an injunction is issued, it will be ignored.

[keepthefaith]

Let's elect Trump but with a pre-condition that he resigns after 2 years. He'll come in and tackle immigration and start beating the snot out of Isis and work on the economy. After 2 years he gives way to a more polished and measured VP. Ryan becomes the new VP.

[B-Man]

Make the President an offer he can’t refuse on refugees

 

As much as we rightly fear Islamic terror coming into our country, at the same time I think most of us also understand the legitimate fears any woman and mother has living in the Islamic world. So when it comes to refugees, let’s take the President at his word, and do a good deed at the same time.

 

Let’s set a quota demanding that refugees let in must be 70% women, or children under 13.

 

Since Obama says the refugees are mostly women and children, how can he say no?

 

Pass a bill.

 

Barack Obama decided politics must extend beyond the water’s edge, and attacked Ted Cruz while abroad. The basic problem is that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) , like most of us, understands that the bulk of the people coming out of Syria are migrants, not refugees.

 

These aren’t women and children fleeing war and oppression. They’re men looking for work. The profile of the “refugees” is reminiscent of the profile of illegal aliens coming into the US over our southern border.

 

 

But if the President is telling the truth, and the refugeees are mostly women and children, then signing a bill mandating a quota of 70% women, or children under 13 shouldn’t be a problem, right?

 

 

Right? So let’s do it. Pass the bill. Make him veto it.

 

 

http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/19/make-president-offer-cant-refuse-refugees/

[TakeYouToTasker]

Make the President an offer he can’t refuse on refugees

 

As much as we rightly fear Islamic terror coming into our country, at the same time I think most of us also understand the legitimate fears any woman and mother has living in the Islamic world. So when it comes to refugees, let’s take the President at his word, and do a good deed at the same time.

 

Let’s set a quota demanding that refugees let in must be 70% women, or children under 13.

 

Since Obama says the refugees are mostly women and children, how can he say no?

 

Pass a bill.

 

Barack Obama decided politics must extend beyond the water’s edge, and attacked Ted Cruz while abroad. The basic problem is that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) , like most of us, understands that the bulk of the people coming out of Syria are migrants, not refugees.

 

These aren’t women and children fleeing war and oppression. They’re men looking for work. The profile of the “refugees” is reminiscent of the profile of illegal aliens coming into the US over our southern border.

 

 

But if the President is telling the truth, and the refugeees are mostly women and children, then signing a bill mandating a quota of 70% women, or children under 13 shouldn’t be a problem, right?

 

 

Right? So let’s do it. Pass the bill. Make him veto it.

 

 

http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/19/make-president-offer-cant-refuse-refugees/

 

He would never be forced to veto it.

 

It would be held up in the Senate, and finally moved through only when it could be pocket vetoed.

[3rdnlng]

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2015/11/19/iraqi-refugees-who-settled-in-kentucky-supported-al-qaida-attempted-to-send-guns-cash/?subscriber=1

 

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — From a Kentucky college town, two Iraqi refugees plotted to send sniper rifles, Stinger missiles and money to al-Qaida operatives waging an insurgency back home against U.S. troops. The scheme was foiled and both are in prison, but the case has left jitters about whether extremists might slip in among Syrian refugees resettling in the U.S.

 

The two men had been involved in insurgent attacks in Iraq before arriving in Bowling Green, Kentucky, in 2009 as part of a U.S. program to help displaced Iraqis. Their plan unraveled when they teamed up with an FBI informant, leading to their 2011 arrest........................................................................................

 

 

 

Hammadi and Alwan pleaded guilty to taking part in a plot to ship thousands of dollars in cash, machine-guns, rifles, grenades and shoulder-fired missiles from Kentucky to al-Qaida in Iraq in 2010 and 2011. Hammadi is serving a life sentence, and Alwan, who prosecutors called an experienced militant, received a 40-year prison sentence.

Federal officials already had evidence of Alwan's ties to the Iraq insurgency from a fingerprint on a roadside bomb found in 2005, but it didn't stop him from entering the U.S. as a refugee four years later. Federal investigators starting tracking Alwan after discovering he had been held in an Iraqi prison. The fingerprint match was made later and used as evidence in the case against him.

 

 

So, this is how our government screens refugees?

[B-Man]

NOT JUST SYRIANS: Thousands of Somali Refugees Enter US, Despite Having Same Terror Vetting Problem.

 

 

 

“More Somali former refugees have left the U.S. to fight with Al-Shabaab and ISIS than any other ethnic group.”

[keepthefaith]

"The fundamental transformation of America". This is just another piece in Obama's puzzle.

[Deranged Rhino]

"The fundamental transformation of America". This is just another piece in Obama's puzzle.

 

I'm not sure it's Obama's puzzle, though he's put in a lot of pieces. The transformation started back in 2001.

[DC Tom]

 

I'm not sure it's Obama's puzzle, though he's put in a lot of pieces. The transformation started back in 2001.

 

Before then, really. I still blame Clinton.

[Dante]

 

I'm not sure it's Obama's puzzle, though he's put in a lot of pieces. The transformation started back in 2001.

Obama's and Hillary I think. That guy in Benghazi either knew about or was aiding in the transport of weapons to Isis/Al Qaeda whatever. Imho it was a hit carried out on him to close that potential leak.

[Rob's House]

Syrian refugees are the new Mexican border hoppers. If you have any concerns with rolling out the red carpet for them you're a bigot and a xenophobe.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

Turning on President Barack Obama and other Democratic leaders, a significant chunk of the House Democratic caucus sided with Republicans in an effort to effectively stifle the flow of Syrian refugees into the US. On Thursday, 47 House Democrats voted in favor of a bill authored by Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas). The bill passed, 289-137, giving it just enough to overcome a threatened veto from President Barack Obama.

 

 

 

Original Article

 

 

Funny thing.........After a closed-door meeting at the White House, Dems came away even more opposed to Obama´s plan.

[B-Large]

Yeah

 

 

it was supposed to be a joke, sorta