Wazzu Bill Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Isn't Kiko out with a partial ACL tear? As far as I'm concerned, Rex: 1 Chip: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Looking just at this year, even taking injuries out of the equation, the Bills won. They got a top RB for a guy they didn't need, even considering that Kiko was a very good player. They want to win NOW and there's no question that McCoy is an upgrade over our backs last year, no matter how much I admire Fred Jackson. Longer term, we'll just have to see. McCoy is getting on in years and by, say, 2017 he might have lost the quickness that makes him so good. Hope not, but we'll see. What's not questionable is the money. Kiko will be playing under his cheap rookie contract for another year, and McCoy's salary is using up cap money. Also there's the consideration that top-notch RBs aren't really that rare, taking into account how much more important passing is than rushing these days. You can give up a small amount in RB skill and save a bundle. I think both McCoy and Kiko are excellent talents. Kiko seems like a good guy and I wish him well, and that he gets back to playing like he did the first half of his rookie season. I saw one incredible interception he made this year so the talent is obviously still there. McCoy is acting and playing in a completely professional manner, and I'm glad he's a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 rex isn't perfect, but he doesn't shift blame away from himself Agreed. I wanted chip to succeed bc i like seeing college coaches make the jump to the NFL and be successful. But hes really making it difficult to root for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I see him lasting one more year, barring them being the worst in the league. He went 10-6 back to back. One speed bump year wouldn't be enough to can him. I agree with that thinking. They've just changed too much roster wise, and management wise, to burn it all after one season... unless it's a winless season or something equally as horrific. Which, it still might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Isn't Kiko out with a partial ACL tear? As far as I'm concerned, Rex: 1 Chip: 0 Kiko is seeking a 2nd opinion to see if he can play with the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think Bills filled a perceived need, traded as smartly as they were able. If they truly for Robert, then i feel pretty good about that transaction. Mind you i was super pissed at the time, and i never wished Kiko the Legend any ill will whatsoever. But this McCoy might have some game after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Both are going to end up injury prone but the Bills will be on the hook for A LOT more MONEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Both are going to end up injury prone but the Bills will be on the hook for A LOT more MONEY. And this (that McCoy will be injury prone) is based on...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And this (that McCoy will be injury prone) is based on...what? Absolutely nothing at all. McCoy will retire a Bill in 6 years. Amassing 9670 yds 78 tds and leading Buffalo to 4 Super Bowl titles. See anyone can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Both are going to end up injury prone but the Bills will be on the hook for A LOT more MONEY. Interesting. What Is this based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No brainer at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Both are going to end up injury prone but the Bills will be on the hook for A LOT more MONEY. Such uninformed hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 A legend in some minds because he played with abandon and was all over the field with a personality of mystic. Not so much with his body. It was clear he could not hold up to 16 games with 260 running backs. 3rd best running back was a no brainer. Don't be so hard on Waley. He really knows what he is doing. I'm sorry about Fred and Kiko also but they were both very good football determinations. Matts gone now too and that is the same good determination. And that is exactly the mindset the Steeler's organization have. They cut loose players who may be popular but not producing...They even pushed out a legend, Troy Polamalu into retirement. I remember, they let go fan favorites like Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Joey Porter, heck even a HOF like Rod Woodson and yet here we complain about Freddy being let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 @ProFootballTalk Chip Kelly: Alonso out, Murray iffy for Sunday http://wp.me/p14QSB-9RxC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I loved Kiko on the Bills but I honestly thought he was a bit overrated. There is no question the guy is a playmaker and can make game changing plays, but he struggles against the run as he is small and can be over aggressive at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Lobsters Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If the Eagles have a really crappy 6 or less win season then I can see Chip getting fired. The team was completely reworked in his image and if they fall on their face it all is on Chip Chipperson. Double Guns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I refuse to criticize Kiko. The man was very good for Buffalo in many ways. This trade one of them so it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Shady has his breakout game this week. Finally in game shape, hammy not an issue...fans who were on the fence about this trade will have their eyes opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I loved Kiko on the Bills but I honestly thought he was a bit overrated. There is no question the guy is a playmaker and can make game changing plays, but he struggles against the run as he is small and can be over aggressive at times i agree. he reminded me of another overrated linebacker among Bills fans...London Fletcher. He was Fletcher with better hands. Solid, but not worth all the hype. People think these guys are future hall of famers because we haven't had a true stud at MLB since Sam Cowart. Nonetheless, I feel bad for the guy if that knee is wrecked again. He's so young and he was impressive in week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Agreed. I wanted chip to succeed bc i like seeing college coaches make the jump to the NFL and be successful. But hes really making it difficult to root for him. No one wants Chip Kelly to succeed, except Eagles fans. If he does, he'll make everyone else look foolish. Shady has his breakout game this week. Finally in game shape, hammy not an issue...fans who were on the fence about this trade will have their eyes opened. I think everyone knows we got the better player but the worse contract out of the trade. Correct or not, the strength of the trade will be viewed within the confines of the contract they gave him afterwards. It's not this season or next that will make up peoples minds, but what happens after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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