Garranimal Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I assume he was referring to fumbles lost. Last year's total was 4. They've lost 2 in 2 games. Fumbles were supposedly the main reason the *Pats wanted the balls deflated. If this trend continues, it does certainly provide anectodatal data supporting this theory. There are currently 4 teams with no fumbles.......has ball deflation become a trend? A fad? A trending fad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 There are currently 4 teams with no fumbles.......has ball deflation become a trend? A fad? A trending fad?too soon to tell. It's a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 There are currently 4 teams with no fumbles.......has ball deflation become a trend? A fad? A trending fad? Ok Pats* fan. Ok. Â Let's see how the season turns out. But so far, after 2 weeks, it's not looking good for deflategate. well, 3 isnt half of 13..... but still. Fumbles lost. 4 last year. 2 this year. I didn't think bills fans would be nit picking me. Not bills fans... Â Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I assume he was referring to fumbles lost. Last year's total was 4. They've lost 2 in 2 games. Fumbles were supposedly the main reason the *Pats wanted the balls deflated. If this trend continues, it does certainly provide anectodatal data supporting this theory. it was clear thats what he meant, but under the theory that recoveries are a pretty random event, and the real issue to watch is them simply coming out in the first place..... its a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Ok Pats* fan. Ok. Â Let's see how the season turns out. But so far, after 2 weeks, it's not looking good for deflategate. Â Fumbles lost. 4 last year. 2 this year. I didn't think bills fans would be nit picking me. Not bills fans... Â Ok then. So is your theory that deflated fumbled footballs are easier for the offense to recover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 So is your theory that deflated fumbled footballs are easier for the offense to recover? They might not bounce as far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 When Deflategate was in full swing I looked at team fumbles by the Pats versus the average team fumbles. I'm not doing it again, so this is from memory: Over eight seasons they were the best or nearly the best at not fumbling seven times. If they had fumbled at the average league rate over those eight years they'd have lost eight more fumbles per year over that span. (And yes, I figured that by total fumble differential times average lost fumble rate.) Eight additional turnovers by a team over the course of a year would equate to an average of about two more losses per season. That was figured by looking at win percentage as a function of turnover differential. Â So, yeah, two additional wins a year just by not fumbling as much. Over 8 years. That's stealing a whole season of wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Last year the pats* fumbled 13 times, but only lost 4. An entire season This year the pats* have fumbled 3 times, and lost 2. In 2 weeks! Â On pace for an average season of 24 fumbles with 16 lost. Â What excuse will the pats* have? Â Â Â I assume he was referring to fumbles lost. Last year's total was 4. They've lost 2 in 2 games. Fumbles were supposedly the main reason the *Pats wanted the balls deflated. If this trend continues, it does certainly provide anectodatal data supporting this theory. Yup. lost in the disinformation about passing was ball grip / control. Â softer ball easier to control. I wondered this weeks ago when the control of game balls changed. So far mine and others theories seem to have merit. Edited September 23, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Last year the pats* fumbled 13 times, but only lost 4. An entire season This year the pats* have fumbled 3 times, and lost 2. In 2 weeks! Â On pace for an average season of 24 fumbles with 16 lost. Â What excuse will the pats* have? Â Â Â If they were ever put to an explanation, it would go about as well as this: Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNQwL1F7o-I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I certainly have no desire to offer up an excuse for those guys, but one guy can skew a season. Hasn't the same guy fumbled twice? Â Is the third fumble the brady strip sack? If so, besides having less than 2 PSI in the ball and a hand full of stick'um (ala Orlando Jones in The Replacements), i don't think there was any stopping that fumble! On dozens of occasion, I've seen him hold onto that ball 9 times outta 10 for the last ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ok Pats* fan. Ok. Â Let's see how the season turns out. But so far, after 2 weeks, it's not looking good for deflategate. Fumbles lost. 4 last year. 2 this year. I didn't think bills fans would be nit picking me. Not bills fans... Â Ok then. Yes, you got me. I joined this board in 2002 knowing that someday, as a secret Pats fan who was born at Millard Fillmore Hospital, I could defend the Pats fumbling insignificantly on a fan message board. Dammit, the jig is up (and gone)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 No surprise. It's early still, but I expect their fumble rate to mysteriously (cough cough) increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The balls are regulation sized now and it's hard for the Pats* to hold onto anything within the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, you got me. I joined this board in 2002 knowing that someday, as a secret Pats fan who was born at Millard Fillmore Hospital, I could defend the Pats fumbling insignificantly on a fan message board. Dammit, the jig is up (and gone)! Dont know when you became a pats fan. Good for you though. The balls are regulation sized now and it's hard for the Pats* to hold onto anything within the rules. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I love all the early season arguments people make based on sample sizes that are way too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 They are 2-0 and just kicked our ass what does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Too early to tell but I guarantee that count will be looked at later this year. Just think, take those fumbles away and that game is a lot more of a runaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Dont know when you became a pats fan. Good for you though. This probably sometime after joining this message board and dealing with real LA Bills fans. Enjoy the land of fruits and nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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