DC Tom Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I disagree. Playoffs or bust. We've been rolling with it for almost 20 years. This is the beginning of dominance, last piece of the puzzle. This window is only open for a short amount of time. We/They need to take advantage of this talent. Our team is stacked!! Playoffs or Bust. Imo Arguing that EJ sucks...I can let that slide, or agree with it, or whatever. Point is, it's a rational position. But you can't improve a roster just by cutting a player. You have to have a viable alternative. Yes. Had some good analysis i thought accompanied by vines. For anyone who doesn't have a "side" - it's a balanced article. I've followed this writer for awhile and he's not particularly high on Ej overall, but he usually does a good job with this kind of thing. Any article that discusses EJ in isolation, without putting his performance in the context of the absolutely pitiful blocking schemes as well, is useless. And that context goes beyond "pocket presence." It impacts everything a QB does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Arguing that EJ sucks...I can let that slide, or agree with it, or whatever. Point is, it's a rational position. But you can't improve a roster just by cutting a player. You have to have a viable alternative. Any article that discusses EJ in isolation, without putting his performance in the context of the absolutely pitiful blocking schemes as well, is useless. And that context goes beyond "pocket presence." It impacts everything a QB does. Yep. Like I said in another thread, Brady looked finished his first 4 games this past season, until the OL finally got settled. If that's not proof right there, nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) So what is your master plan? Roll with Cassel? Is he truely that much better of an option? I think it's hard to pick who is/should be the guy because they'll be playing under a new system on a clean slate. Wait until camp and preseason before we 'waste' a season on someone. This poster was seen as an "insider" who went ahead and predicted that the Bills were going to cut EJ, so it seems like there might be a hidden agenda beyond simply not thinking EJ is the answer. My take is that he knows somebody who's currently in the Bills organization and who is now a holdover from the idiot Marrone regime. IMO, this holdover thinks that ultimately it was EJ's fault that Marrone's career went off the rails. Because if EJ Manuel played like Andrew Luck, Marrone would be the king of the world (or something like that). The great part of this season will be watching what EJ does under Roman. He made successful QBs out of both Smith and Kaerpernick. Marrone will look like the king of the dopes if EJ has a big season. He will for sure never get another NFL head coaching gig if that does happen. Edited April 10, 2015 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) This poster was seen as an "insider" who went ahead and predicted that the Bills were going to cut EJ, so it seems like there might be a hidden agenda beyond simply not thinking EJ is the answer. My take is that he knows somebody who's currently in the Bills organization and who is now a holdover from the idiot Marrone regime. IMO, this holdover thinks that ultimately it was EJ's fault that Marrone's career went off the rails. Because if EJ Manuel played like Andrew Luck, Marrone would be the king of the world (or something like that). The great part of this season will be watching what EJ does under Roman. He made successful QBs out of both Smith and Kaerpernick. Marrone will look like the king of the dopes if EJ has a big season. He will for sure never get another NFL head coaching gig if that does happen. that's a good point. Not good for the NFL HC resume if you can't/won't develop a young QB. If Roman can do it again...and this team makes the playoffs with EJ as the starting QB... Aaron Kromer could be our new OC next year because Roman will be in the mix for a HC job. Edited April 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Works for me - I actually am reading it right now. Weird!doesn't work for me either. Says error over and over. Tried from twitter as well... no dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 that's a good point. Not good for the NFL HC resume if you can't/won't develop a young QB. If Roman can do it again...and this team makes the playoffs with EJ as the starting QB... Aaron Kromer could be our new OC next year because Roman will be in the mix for a HC job. Alex Simth, Colin Kaep, EJ Manuel? He's done it before. Put your guys in. Position to be successful (unlike cantHackett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yep. Like I said in another thread, Brady looked finished his first 4 games this past season, until the OL finally got settled. If that's not proof right there, nothing is. Ain't THAT the truth. I saw Brady get pulled (or pull himself) in one game when he was looking so bad it seemed the end had finally come.... but no... ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 doesn't work for me either. Says error over and over. Tried from twitter as well... no dicedid you try clearing your cache? ugh, sorry. Working for some people and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 doesn't work for me either. Says error over and over. Tried from twitter as well... no dice Works fine on my phone. Nice piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This poster was seen as an "insider" who went ahead and predicted that the Bills were going to cut EJ, so it seems like there might be a hidden agenda beyond simply not thinking EJ is the answer. My take is that he knows somebody who's currently in the Bills organization and who is now a holdover from the idiot Marrone regime. IMO, this holdover thinks that ultimately it was EJ's fault that Marrone's career went off the rails. Because if EJ Manuel played like Andrew Luck, Marrone would be the king of the world (or something like that). The great part of this season will be watching what EJ does under Roman. He made successful QBs out of both Smith and Kaerpernick. Marrone will look like the king of the dopes if EJ has a big season. He will for sure never get another NFL head coaching gig if that does happen. What an odd stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I disagree. Playoffs or bust. We've been rolling with it for almost 20 years. This is the beginning of dominance, last piece of the puzzle. This window is only open for a short amount of time. We/They need to take advantage of this talent. Our team is stacked!! Playoffs or Bust. Imo What does bust mean for you? I'll be a fan of this team until I die, playoff or not this year. speaking about the article. Vine 2, the LG is beaten badly by the DT, still EJ escapes. Vine 3, the RT is tossed back like he isn't there, EJ gets hit completes an ugly pass Vine 4, EJ does hold the ball too long, bad decision, but no WR in sight, where's the safety valve, no crossing route? Vines 5 and 6, the reads are correct but he needs to step into those throws instead of trying to aim the ball. Those are TDs passes, he needs to hit them when they're available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 did you try clearing your cache? ugh, sorry. Working for some people and not others. Working "now" for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJuice Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 that's a good point. Not good for the NFL HC resume if you can't/won't develop a young QB. If Roman can do it again...and this team makes the playoffs with EJ as the starting QB... Aaron Kromer could be our new OC next year because Roman will be in the mix for a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Error 404 - Page Not Found! F*ck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Doesn't work when I'm connected to my router but works on 4g. Interesting. Decent piece. Some things can be argued on his bad plays, like the oline, but agree he needs to be more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I stopped at the "EJ holds ball too long" video, which was more like "Cordy Glenn doesn't hold block long enough." On that one, that was my thought too. Glenn has potential as a good LT but he just flat out got pwnd on that play. I'm not sure it's true that 2.5 sec is the "average" time a QB has to throw in the NFL, and if it is true, I'm not sure it's meaningful. I know that in the Superbowl, the Pats* talked about 2.5 seconds being all Seattle was going to give Brady. But in general, I think 2.5 sec is a quick release, and strong lines (including the Pats*) typically give their guys a bit more. that's a good point. Not good for the NFL HC resume if you can't/won't develop a young QB. If Roman can do it again...and this team makes the playoffs with EJ as the starting QB... Aaron Kromer could be our new OC next year because Roman will be in the mix for a HC job. Roman did well with Smith and Kaep. He needs a much stronger line to do what he does, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yep. Like I said in another thread, Brady looked finished his first 4 games this past season, until the OL finally got settled. If that's not proof right there, nothing is. Or it could simply be proof that Brady re-upped his deal with the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Or it could simply be proof that Brady re-upped his deal with the devil. I'm going with this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Or it could simply be proof that Brady re-upped his deal with the devil.He already married her. What else could he offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I look at this, and I see potential. Stuff that he could improve on given experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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