Rubes Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The other what-if thread (promoting Pettine to HC) got me wondering if people would feel any differently if, after Marrone quit, we elevated Schwartz to HC and it was he who recruited and hired Roman as the OC. Would people here feel much differently? Is there more confidence or support for Rex as HC vs. Schwartz, given the same OC? On the one hand, there is the continuity on defense (Schwartz), while on the other, there is the track record and creativity on defense, plus the allure and personality (Rex). None of this matters, of course, I'm just curious. For the record, I'm totally on board with the Rex hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hate your what IFs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Harvin is here because of Rex and Sanjay, so we probably would not have him. I think fans would be in a much greater "prove you can be a head coach" with Schwartz versus Rex, so the excitement may be a little tempered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The other what-if thread (promoting Pettine to HC) got me wondering if people would feel any differently if, after Marrone quit, we elevated Schwartz to HC and it was he who recruited and hired Roman as the OC. Would people here feel much differently? Is there more confidence or support for Rex as HC vs. Schwartz, given the same OC? On the one hand, there is the continuity on defense (Schwartz), while on the other, there is the track record and creativity on defense, plus the allure and personality (Rex). None of this matters, of course, I'm just curious. For the record, I'm totally on board with the Rex hire. How do we know Greg Roman would have WANTED to come here without Rex. They go way back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The other what-if thread (promoting Pettine to HC) got me wondering if people would feel any differently if, after Marrone quit, we elevated Schwartz to HC and it was he who recruited and hired Roman as the OC. Would people here feel much differently? Is there more confidence or support for Rex as HC vs. Schwartz, given the same OC? On the one hand, there is the continuity on defense (Schwartz), while on the other, there is the track record and creativity on defense, plus the allure and personality (Rex). None of this matters, of course, I'm just curious. For the record, I'm totally on board with the Rex hire. This is what I really wanted to have happen--keep Schwartz as HC, and find a good OC to go with him. Don't change the defense up yet again. And I've never been as impressed with Rex as most of the fans here seem to be. I don't get the "allure" of his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) The reservations I have with Rex is that he is his own best PR machine. Reality is that he made it to the AFC title game twice with a team that he inherited and from there on it was down hill. Even with 2 AFC championship games he still posts a loosing record of 46-50. Facts are not supporting what the PR machine is producing so to speak. If he does manage to put his money where his mouth is he'll have a ton of respect. The good news is, he did inherit a pretty good group of guys here as well so hopefully that will work out the same or better. Personally I was in the Schwartz camp; but supporting the decision now until the season is done. Edited April 6, 2015 by bladiebla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Rex is the glue holding this together. Players/coaches alike love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm happy with what we have. Would not have liked gym shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dog Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Who cares about what ifs, Rex is the coach get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If I were the owner I would have hired Roman as HC and kept Schwartz as DC, rather than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Who cares about what ifs, Rex is the coach get over it Obviously, I think it's worth discussing. If you don't, feel free to not open the thread. If I were the owner I would have hired Roman as HC and kept Schwartz as DC, rather than the other way around. Only problem with that is Schwartz very likely would not have stayed under that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) The reservations I have with Rex is that he is his own best PR machine. Reality is that he made it to the AFC title game twice with a team that he inherited and from there on it was down hill. Even with 2 AFC championship games he still posts a loosing record of 46-50. Facts are not supporting what the PR machine is producing so to speak. If he does manage to put his money where his mouth is he'll have a ton of respect. The good news is, he did inherit a pretty good group of guys here as well so hopefully that will work out the same or better. Personally I was in the Schwartz camp; but supporting the decision now until the season is done. Remind me again how stacked that Jests team was after three years of Mangina and no Brett Favre. Edited April 7, 2015 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasjuggler Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I feel we don't lose that Oakland game last year with Rex. He would have brought the kitchen sink against a rookie QB. Swartz defensive game plan was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Rex gets the players pumped up like no other. he doesn't know sh*t about offense and his game management is questionable, but the guys love playing for him. he's definitely more exciting than Schwartz would have been. I hope we play the Pats the first game because he's going to have these guys playing harder than they ever have before in their careers and it's going to be fun to watch us catch some teams by surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I would have preferred a Schwartz defense over Pettine's or Ryan's. That said, I'm not sure Schwartz could have run his D well, and the team as Head Coach. I like Ryan's personality more and think he'll be a better and more entertaining coach. Given all the unknowns, I'd choose to stay with what I see we have now. I don't think it's likely a Schwartz promotion would have turned out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 A number of our recent free agents came because of Rex. I see right now him as a good hire. I also think that post Detroit celebration was classless. Schwartz was a good defensive coordinator but he didn't have control over his Detroit team. Like him or not Rex brought his first two years with the Jets to the AFC Championship and that was with Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Utmost respect for what Jim did with our defense. and i cannot slight him one iota. Rex is what we have. And now I am on board with him , because he hired Roman and Kromer. Thats was extremely wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Schwartz was not a leader of men. No way. Prefer Rex--at least he's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If this scenerio played out we would be in the middle of WWIII and half the country nuked. Leaving only half the teams to play. That would pretty much guarantee a Super Bowl victory. Typical Buffalo would find a way to screw it up. Is it worth it at the expense of half the NFL/ Country? Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Schwartz was not a leader of men. No way. Prefer Rex--at least he's fun. I think this is a pretty good assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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