MDH Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Super bowl and nfc title game appearances are cool. Not to mention 3-4 points per game is quite a bit as is the difference in time of possession and turnovers. But hey, he shouldn't let those things get in the way of a good crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Super bowl and nfc title game appearances are cool. like these V 2014 Seattle Seahawks* 12 4 0 Lost SB offense ranking #9 2013 Seattle Seahawks* 13 3 0 Won SB offense ranking #18 2012 Seattle Seahawks* 11 5 0 Lost Div offense ranking #17 I never thought WEO could be such a Troll http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/ 2013 San Francisco 49ers* 12 4 0 Lost Conf Champ 2012 San Francisco 49ers* 11 4 1 Lost SB 2011 San Francisco 49ers* 13 3 0 Lost Conf Champ 2014 San Francisco 49ers 8 8 one game record lower than Buffalo* in 2014 YET had Brady and the Putrids * played the 2nd half in week 17 the Bills would have finished with the same 8-8 record as the 9ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not to mention 3-4 points per game is quite a bit as is the difference in time of possession and turnovers. But hey, he shouldn't let those things get in the way of a good crusade. Not much of a crusade. Just pointing out that Roman's offense last year took a dive and wasn't much better than ours, despite superior talent. The 49rs had a +12 TO ratio and finished 8-8. They had a TOP 1:51 more than the Bills (and ran off 200 fewer plays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor base value of deal is $3.35M, $400,000 bonus, salaries $750,000, $1M, $1.2M @RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor $750,000 salary is fully guaranteed and has total of $1.15M gtd, including $400K bonus @RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor $1M playtime incentives each year, up to $1 million playtime plus playoffs, up to $1 million escalator 2016 for 2015 playtime Edited March 16, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not much of a crusade. Just pointing out that Roman's offense last year took a dive and wasn't much better than ours, despite superior talent. The 49rs had a +12 TO ratio and finished 8-8. They had a TOP 1:51 more than the Bills (and ran off 200 fewer plays). You'll get no argument from me about last year. It was a big backslide. I'll go with the overall track record as opposed to a single year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The 49'ers were a mess both on and off the field. @RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor base value of deal is $3.35M, $400,000 bonus, salaries $750,000, $1M, $1.2M@RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor $750,000 salary is fully guaranteed and has total of $1.15M gtd, including $400K bonus@RavensInsider: Tyrod Taylor $1M playtime incentives each year, up to $1 million playtime plus playoffs, up to $1 million escalator 2016 for 2015 playtime At $1.1M/year, I can live with that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Not much of a crusade. Just pointing out that Roman's offense last year took a dive and wasn't much better than ours, despite superior talent. The 49rs had a +12 TO ratio and finished 8-8. They had a TOP 1:51 more than the Bills (and ran off 200 fewer plays). YAWN WEO. You can't be THE best season after season for goodness sake ... unless you are the Cheatriots Edited March 18, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 You'll get no argument from me about last year. It was a big backslide. I'll go with the overall track record as opposed to a single year though. Agreed If it doesnt backslide then Roman isnt availble to us as the OC.....people tend to forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 YAWN WEO. You can't be THE best season after season for goodness sake ... Agreed If it doesnt backslide then Roman isnt availble to us as the OC.....people tend to forget that The 9ers HC was mailing it in and the entire team was sleep walking through the season last year. That entire team is disintegrating before our very eyes right now. It was a thing of beauty, but the owner done !@#$ed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) The 9ers HC was mailing it in and the entire team was sleep walking through the season last year. That entire team is disintegrating before our very eyes right now. It was a thing of beauty, but the owner done !@#$ed it up. I stated that myself. Hardpaws knew he was on the outs, and therefore many on the staff had to know they were on a short list. I also reiterated that after Maroone had his scream at Whaley he too knew he was finished in Buffalo and said u . just a thought let me edit that last post .... You can't be THE best season after season for goodness sake ... unless you are the Cheatriots Edited March 18, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The 9ers HC was mailing it in and the entire team was sleep walking through the season last year. That entire team is disintegrating before our very eyes right now. It was a thing of beauty, but the owner done !@#$ed it up. I don't believe that. I don't believe Harbaugh ever "mails it in"? For your premise to be true, Roman was mailing it in too. I just don't think that happens for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I don't believe that. I don't believe Harbaugh ever "mails it in"? For your premise to be true, Roman was mailing it in too. I just don't think that happens for a season. that is exactlky what we are saying. Did you know that there were rumors that the Rex / Roman aliance was made before the season ended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I don't know if he mailed it in so much as the players got fed up with him and stopped listening to him. To go along with the off-field issues, loss of talent, and erosion of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lame duck season and the players knew it. The mentality factor of that played a big part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The 49'ers were a mess both on and off the field. At $1.1M/year, I can live with that contract. yeah, me too - I could live real well with that contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I don't believe that. I don't believe Harbaugh ever "mails it in"? For your premise to be true, Roman was mailing it in too. I just don't think that happens for a season. You're free to believe whatever you want. You can believe the truth or not. I'd rather believe my lying eyes than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Regarding the offense argument... not that PFR is the end all be-all, but these links might be relevant: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2014/#team_stats::25 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/#team_stats::25 SF: 11th, 18th (both above PFR's avg) Buf: 26th, 27th (both below PFR's avg) Football Outsiders http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2013 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2014 SF: 8th, 16th (both above avg) Buf: 25th, 26th (both below avg) Again, these aren't the end all be all... but two sites who's focus is on analyzing the efficiency of a team, both ranked SF's offenses better than the Bills the last couple of years. Even with all the drama in 2014 for SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Regarding the offense argument... not that PFR is the end all be-all, but these links might be relevant: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2014/#team_stats::25 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/#team_stats::25 SF: 11th, 18th (both above PFR's avg) Buf: 26th, 27th (both below PFR's avg) Football Outsiders http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2013 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2014 SF: 8th, 16th (both above avg) Buf: 25th, 26th (both below avg) Again, these aren't the end all be all... but two sites who's focus is on analyzing the efficiency of a team, both ranked SF's offenses better than the Bills the last couple of years. Even with all the drama in 2014 for SF. Add in PFF: SF: 10th overall, 22nd passing, and 12th rushing Buf: 29th overall, 28th passing, and 29th rushing Even with all the discord swirling around that team, IMHO, the 49er offense was far better, in fundamental ways, than the Bills' offense Although, I am not sure why this conversation is in a Tyrod Taylor thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Add in PFF: SF: 10th overall, 22nd passing, and 12th rushing Buf: 29th overall, 28th passing, and 29th rushing Even with all the discord swirling around that team, IMHO, the 49er offense was far better, in fundamental ways, than the Bills' offense Although, I am not sure why this conversation is in a Tyrod Taylor thread Because he's the fuel that will make our offense go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Because he's the fuel that will make our offense go! I love optimism...you just never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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