nucci Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 totally agree, but I think he's a step up from those schlubs. That's fine...I don't...seen him play for a while now. very unproductive and would be on the bench if Eifert could stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 John Kryk retweeted SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL 51s51 seconds ago Doug Whaley on Charles Clay: He's such a special player, we're at the point now where we're debating making an offer. #Bills #Dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 John Kryk retweeted SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL 51s51 seconds ago Doug Whaley on Charles Clay: He's such a special player, we're at the point now where we're debating making an offer. #Bills #Dolphins Exactly how long are we planning to "debate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 John Kryk retweeted SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL 51s51 seconds ago Doug Whaley on Charles Clay: He's such a special player, we're at the point now where we're debating making an offer. #Bills #Dolphins These two sentences don't seem to go together??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Vic Carucci @viccarucci 24s24 seconds ago The #Bills still deciding whether to submit offer sheet to Charles Clay, GM Doug Whaley just told @siriusxmnfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 These two sentences don't seem to go together??? Indeed...I'm certain that they didn't visit with the guy for over 2 days just to "debate" making an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Indeed...I'm certain that they didn't visit with the guy for over 2 days just to "debate" making an offer. knee issue pop up on physical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Have the Bills parallized themselves debating whether to make an offer on Clay or maybe how to structure that offer so Miami can't match? 2 day visit and Clay flies away ins't usually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 'Preciate your patience, Kirby. Can't blame Johnny Come Lately's for not reading all 40+ pages to see if their exact message has uttered 40 times. IMO, no sense starting a new thread til a decision is made -one way or another. Yes, because I don't post everyday my opinion is not as important as yours. My point is that if he is so versatile and such an awesome weapon, then why hasn't he put up very good stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Clay came in before Suh #s were released. Could be that the structure to get Miami to not be able to match might not work with what we have coming up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 It's a game of chicken. Clay wants a lot of money. Dolphins are still dining Cameron who is still there. Browns are waiting to see what Bills do. I'm not sure exactly what is going on but I know it's a lot of high stakes gamesmanship between three teams and a player and agent. I still like our chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 It's a game of chicken. Clay wants a lot of money. Dolphins are still dining Cameron who is still there. Browns are waiting to see what Bills do. I'm not sure exactly what is going on but I know it's a lot of high stakes gamesmanship between three teams and a player and agent. I still like our chancessince he decided to visit Cleveland, bills don't want to share their offer yet in case browns just top it? Wait for browns to blink first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Clay came in before Suh #s were released. Could be that the structure to get Miami to not be able to match might not work with what we have coming up? Seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 It's a game of chicken. Clay wants a lot of money. Dolphins are still dining Cameron who is still there. Browns are waiting to see what Bills do. I'm not sure exactly what is going on but I know it's a lot of high stakes gamesmanship between three teams and a player and agent. I still like our chances Also, Evan Mathis becoming available and both Buffalo and Miami having interest definitely changes the dynamics. For example, suppose Miami trades for Mathis; Buffalo can now move on Clay knowing that Miami is very unlikely to match. Conversely, if Buffalo lands Mathis, they might have to bail on Clay because they can't frontload his contract like they'd need to to prevent Miami from matching. Then again, if someone else lands Mathis, the stare-down may continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 So you picked the guy up (with the owner) as soon as you could, kept the guy in town for two days, and you're "debating" whether you want to make him an offer? Riiighhhttttt. Sounds like damage control to me. I wonder if they have something else up their sleeve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 So you picked the guy up (with the owner) as soon as you could, kept the guy in town for two days, and you're "debating" whether you want to make him an offer? Riiighhhttttt. Sounds like damage control to me. I wonder if they have something else up their sleeve? Could be but I very much doubt it. It's just playing the game. Waiting to see who blinks first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 since he decided to visit Cleveland, bills don't want to share their offer yet in case browns just top it? Wait for browns to blink first? they probably want Clay to decide which team he would rather be on regardless of money. the offers will probably be similar. he saw what we have to offer as an up and coming team, now he's going to go to Cleveland and see how much of a mess that organization is and he will come crawling back to talk terms with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 since he decided to visit Cleveland, bills don't want to share their offer yet in case browns just top it? Wait for browns to blink first? maybe. The Bills would likely have a chance to match the Browns deal before he signs. The agent is using the Browns against us either way. Also, Evan Mathis becoming available and both Buffalo and Miami having interest definitely changes the dynamics. For example, suppose Miami trades for Mathis; Buffalo can now move on Clay knowing that Miami is very unlikely to match. Conversely, if Buffalo lands Mathis, they might have to bail on Clay because they can't frontload his contract like they'd need to to prevent Miami from matching. Then again, if someone else lands Mathis, the stare-down may continue. Yep I was thinking Mathis affects it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Bills could be making Miami move on Jordan Cameron first do he doesn't sign elsewhere, and so then they don't match anyway because they already replaced him Edited March 12, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 since he decided to visit Cleveland, bills don't want to share their offer yet in case browns just top it? Wait for browns to blink first? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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