JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=31g0YE61PLQ Edited March 9, 2015 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hope this doesnt mean we're trading another pillar of our defense for a back to replace Freddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hope this doesnt mean we're trading another pillar of our defense for a back to replace Freddie No, we alternate between offense and defense. I predict Wood for Sproles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hope this doesnt mean we're trading another pillar of our defense for a back to replace Freddie When did we trade the first pillar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I guess based on that it means you think Fred sucks too I base my opinion on what I see on the field not what I read in the stat line the next day. Bryce Brown is a talented back who certainly does not suck The NFL has tons of guys who are talented who never do much. Jackson was a slightly better player last year and has had a much better career than Brown. Despite not being as "talented." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Freddy being cut to save a couple dollars and add special teams depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Fred has always been written off. That's nothing new. It's the story of his life. But if given the chance not only would he have been the #2 guy on the team but I bet he would have had almost as many carries as everyone's new favorite RB. It happens every year. He shouldn't be able to, but the guy defies all things and has been the heart and soul of this team for the past almost decade. This is terrible and I can understand why they would do it. If you look at this on paper then it makes sense. But you can't look at Fred on paper because nothing he has done should have been possible. This is where analytics fail. There's things inside a man that you can't measure: heart, desire, determination, passion, leadership, and the ability to make plays when there is no play to be had. They are making a mistake if they release him. My hope is that someone gives him a chance, whether it's us or another team. A chance is the only thing Fred has ever needed in order to prove everyone wrong. I've been a Bills fan my whole life but I would openly root for Fred on whatever team he is on. He deserves better from us. He deserves a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hope this doesnt mean we're trading another pillar of our defense for a back to replace Freddie How is the guy who didn't take a snap last year on a defense that improved to number 4 in the league a pillar of the defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How is the guy who didn't take a snap last year on a defense that improved to number 4 in the league a pillar of the defense? I hope we don't trade Jonathan Meeks for an All-Pro guard. Another pillar of our defense, wasted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How is the guy who didn't take a snap last year on a defense that improved to number 4 in the league a pillar of the defense?He's just a decorative pillar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How is the guy who didn't take a snap last year on a defense that improved to number 4 in the league a pillar of the defense? Oh haha that "pillar". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Whether this rumor is true or not, Fred is on borrowed time. We all know it. We all love the man. He was a great Bill. But his time is coming to an end. Maybe within 48 hours or so. It's called reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Whether this rumor is true or not, Fred is on borrowed time. We all know it. We all love the man. He was a great Bill. But his time is coming to an end. Maybe within 48 hours or so. It's called reality. Fred Jackson defies reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Fred Jackson defies reality. Maybe, but he can't cheat time anymore than you or I can. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How is the guy who didn't take a snap last year on a defense that improved to number 4 in the league a pillar of the defense? 2014 they went to dedicated 4-3 and had spikes in the middle Rex wont play dedicated 4-3 and spikes is likely gone Kiko thrived in Pettine's Rex style defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Seriously, eff this team if they cut Fred. What analytics are they looking at to tell them Bryce Brown and possibly Bilal Powell are better options at running back? Can't just be salary if we're in "win now" mode right? The guy has never had a line nor a QB to play with. And he's had one good offensive mind (Gailey) since he's been in Buffalo. I can't think of many players who could have done as well as he has. And the thing is, he's still really good. But the resident ageists can't see beyond their myopic view of what a running back should look like at 34. Sadly, it appears as though a few of them work at OBD. Also, some food for thought: He has less career carries than McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Fred has always been written off. That's nothing new. It's the story of his life. But if given the chance not only would he have been the #2 guy on the team but I bet he would have had almost as many carries as everyone's new favorite RB. It happens every year. He shouldn't be able to, but the guy defies all things and has been the heart and soul of this team for the past almost decade. This is terrible and I can understand why they would do it. If you look at this on paper then it makes sense. But you can't look at Fred on paper because nothing he has done should have been possible. This is where analytics fail. There's things inside a man that you can't measure: heart, desire, determination, passion, leadership, and the ability to make plays when there is no play to be had. They are making a mistake if they release him. My hope is that someone gives him a chance, whether it's us or another team. A chance is the only thing Fred has ever needed in order to prove everyone wrong. I've been a Bills fan my whole life but I would openly root for Fred on whatever team he is on. He deserves better from us. He deserves a chance Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-unit Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Not to get off topic but was gronk the only non bill football player at that camp how sick would that be if they somehow got him away from the pats I know he's from buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 IMO, this is about Whaley trying to forcibly justify his bad trade for Bryce Brown, who flat out sucks. Seems a pattern for Whaley to keep beating the dead horse of his overreaches until we revolt. So, in keeping with this, OUR Freddy must be sacrificed to validate his quest. Well, let's see how this one plays out with fans and media for ya, Dougy boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) IMO, this is about Whaley trying to forcibly justify his bad trade for Bryce Brown, who flat out sucks. Seems a pattern for Whaley to keep beating the dead horse of his overreaches until we revolt. So, in keeping with this, OUR Freddy must be sacrificed to validate his quest. Well, let's see how this one plays out with fans and media for ya, Dougy boy. There's no chance any of this is what is happening. More than likely, Rex saw on film that Fred is in a full decline and after crunching numbers it was determined that he could be released without any dead cap penalty. 34 year old RBs have a short leash even when they're beloved. Edited March 9, 2015 by Punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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