ExWNYer Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 having a drink isn't necessarily life threatening. No report he was driving under the influence. Basically, since he had a dui in the past, any alcohol positive test is a suspension. It's not just the booze. He's been caught with weed, too, and who knows if he's into anything harder. It's more about his seemingly self-destructive behavior, lack of self-control, & inability to stay clean/out of trouble. It wouldn't be surprising if he spirals into the abyss if he doesn't choose to change his ways and/or get help. It's a tragedy waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) No. That's why he is on a team and Mike Williams is not.i just don't share that opinion of him that his skill set is irreplaceable with a guy who has his head on straight. He couldn't even make it to practice at the end of the season and his own team suspended him. Agree to disagree. Edited January 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 what an idiot !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 It's not just the booze. He's been caught with weed, too, and who knows if he's into anything harder. It's more about his seemingly self-destructive behavior, lack of self-control, & inability to stay clean/out of trouble. It wouldn't be surprising if he spirals into the abyss if he doesn't choose to change his ways and/or get help. It's a tragedy waiting to happen. I don't know the whole situation, but could be just a rich, twenty something athlete that likes a smoke and a drink now and then. Stupid, because it's ruining his career, but to say it's self destructive might be a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't know the whole situation, but could be just a rich, twenty something athlete that likes a smoke and a drink now and then. Stupid, because it's ruining his career, but to say it's self destructive might be a stretch. If you prioritize that "smoke and a drink" over your multi-million dollar career which only a very select few get a chance at, then it is definitely self-destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 @AdamSchefter: Browns WR Josh Gordon flunked another drug test and now will be subject to a one-year banishment, per league sources. More on ESPN @ 6 pm. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't know the whole situation, but could be just a rich, twenty something athlete that likes a smoke and a drink now and then. Stupid, because it's ruining his career, but to say it's self destructive might be a stretch. He's pissed away millions of dollars that he'll never get back and keeps turning to vices that are derailing his career. His behavior certainly seems self-destructive. Not a stretch at all, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 i just don't share that opinion of him that his skill set is irreplaceable with a guy who has his head on straight. He couldn't even make it to practice at the end of the season and his own team suspended him. Agree to disagree.That Josh Gordon isn't the guy you hope you are getting. That's the point. Teams will look at the skill and think they can fix the person. Seantrel Henderson for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) That Josh Gordon isn't the guy you hope you are getting. That's the point. Teams will look at the skill and think they can fix the person. Seantrel Henderson for example. Henderson was a risk because of his college issues. He hasn't (yet) demonstrated the same behavior in the pros. Gordon has, repeatedly. It's his 5th suspension for substance abuse in 5 years. That's the difference. To me, anyway. Edited January 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 He's pissed away millions of dollars that he'll never get back and keeps turning to vices that are derailing his career. His behavior certainly seems self-destructive. Not a stretch at all, IMO. Could also be a choice, he would rather party than be a professional football player. If he's happy and content. Not self destructive. Free will. Again, not saying i think it's smart, but may not be tragic in his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 having a drink isn't necessarily life threatening. No report he was driving under the influence. Basically, since he had a dui in the past, any alcohol positive test is a suspension. @AlbertBreer: NFL drug policy: "Alcohol is prohibited only if a player's treatment plan explicitly prohibits alcohol." A fail is > .06 g/dl on urine test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Think that car dealership is still hiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Could also be a choice, he would rather party than be a professional football player. If he's happy and content. Not self destructive. Free will. Again, not saying i think it's smart, but may not be tragic in his opinion. That's quite a stretch, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Could also be a choice, he would rather party than be a professional football player. If he's happy and content. Not self destructive. Free will. Again, not saying i think it's smart, but may not be tragic in his opinion. We'll see. I hope you're right but it looks deeper than just a young, immature guy making bad choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Think that car dealership is still hiring?Apparently they don't drug test as part of the hiring process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 He's stupid, no doubt. But I find it pretty stupid of the NFL to suspend a guy for a year, regardless of what he did previous, for having what amounts to two drinks in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What an idiot, he ruined the Browns season last year after he came back. See ya buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 @AlbertBreer: NFL drug policy: "Alcohol is prohibited only if a player's treatment plan explicitly prohibits alcohol." A fail is > .06 g/dl on urine test. We'll see. I hope you're right but it looks deeper than just a young, immature guy making bad choices. i have no idea, just presenting another view. In another extreme, he could have shared a nice bottle of wine over dinner and got tested right after that and failed. Nothing else. I personally doubt that's the story, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Wonder if Browns fans still love not getting Sammy. Browns knew the suspension last year was coming and passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 but between Gordon and Manzel, they really need our 1st round pick. Offense is in a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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