Dibs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Kyle Shanahan is the OC of the Browns. They would have final say on whether he can come here as an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Shanahan and Cutler want to reunite. Â Id be okay with this. yea they might want to reunite...in chicago. too many things would have to happen for this to work in buffalo. a long long long shot to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Or maybe he simply requested that teams interview his son - he probably wants to get Kyle on the interview circuit.There is no doubt in my mind that he wants out of Cleveland. They are a complete train wreck with no solution in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I had a chance to witness the Shanny-Shanny and Haslett show with the Redskins and it sucked. The lesson learned is never hire a coach that will not fire an assistant no matter how bad he is. Kyle was awful but dad could not cut the ties. Be very careful what you ask for here. Of all of the coaching options available, this is the worst one. We will not bring up the RG3 development issue. You take away the two Superbowl seasons from Shanahan and he is just a .500 coach. Edited January 6, 2015 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Shanny is using leverage for more money and will take the Chicago job. I think Schwartz will be the guy when this is all said and done. JMHO Mike Shanny in Chicago makes sense since they lack a GM and already have Cutler and Marshall in place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Or maybe he simply requested that teams interview his son - he probably wants to get Kyle on the interview circuit. Not questioning, but is there a link to this not being a package deal? not sure if it's being discussed in other threads, but word is these 2 are not a package deal. Kyle is doing his own thing. I was hoping the Bills interviewing Kyle was because his dad wanted him to be OC for him in Buffalo. then came the news that Mike might be coming in as GM and Kyle as HC and I almost lost my lunch. but now the word is Kyle is not a package deal with his dad which would mean the Bills really are looking at Kyle as HC which must mean after meeting with Mike he probably told him he wouldn't take the job but maybe his son would Same. Is there a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Shanahan and Cutler want to reunite.  Id be okay with this.  Agreed. Hopefully, they can recapture the magic of their 17-20 record together. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm  I was big on the Shanahan bandwagon the first time. I still think he is about as good of an offensive coach as there is. But if he really wants to be our coach, no Cutler. Why people still think he is good is crazy to me. It's as dumb as thinking after 9 years Orton was good enough.  Let Shanahan work with Manuel or select any other QB besides Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 This is where I'm at as well. Mike as HC and Kyle as OC I'm totally cool with. Mike as president or GM and Kyle as HC sounds like a non starter to me. Â Yeah.... I don't know what qualifications Mike has to be President nor the qualifications Kyle has to be HC. Â But Mike has been (past tense) a good HC in the NFL and Kyle is viewed as an up-and-coming OC that may be a HC someday. Throw in Schwartz and this could be a good coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 My concern about Shanahan is historical. Although there are several examples of coaches who went from mediocre in their first HC job to winning a SB on their second, and a couple of examples of Super Bowl coaches taking a second team to the big dance, up to know not a single SB-winning coach has managed to win a Super Bowl with a different team. Playoffs, sure, and an SB appearance or two, but no victories. Do we really think that Mike Shanahan will buck that trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) My concern about Shanahan is historical. Although there are several examples of coaches who went from mediocre in their first HC job to winning a SB on their second, and a couple of examples of Super Bowl coaches taking a second team to the big dance, up to know not a single SB-winning coach has managed to win a Super Bowl with a different team. Playoffs, sure, and an SB appearance or two, but no victories. Do we really think that Mike Shanahan will buck that trend?If coaches who've won before were more likely to win again, you'd think you'd see it in the numbers. But most SB's are won by first-timers. So your chances are better identifying the up-and-comer than going with a retread. Edited January 6, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 K. Shanny was so bad that he immediately landed a job with Cleveland. Go figure. Â The Washington situation was unique. RGIII got injured and was never the same again. Not even close. They had to play inexperienced guys at QB most of the time.....and we know full well how well that goes. Â Add in a meddling/controlling owner and you have a recipe for disaster. Â Hey, I'm not saying that the Shannies are without flaws. They're not perfect. But they are royalty compared with the guys that are competing for the Bill's HC job. Anytime you want to compare M. Shanny to any of the other candidates you let me know. Â What I like most about the prospect of hiring M. Shanny is that he has proven that he can outcoach and beat Belichick on a regular basis. That alone should be enough to sway you. Â If you don't consider G. Williams, Mularkey, Jauron, Gailey, Marrone lousy to no better than average NFL HCs then I might as well be talking to the wall. Nix was a horrible GM to boot. Â it all starts with the guys who are making the important decisions. If you don't have guys who can match wits with the likes of Belichick then you might as well resign yourself to second best......or in Buffalo's case................the embarrassment of not being good enough to make the playoffs in 14 fuggin' years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Kyle Shanahan is the OC of the Browns. They would have final say on whether he can come here as an OC. The Bills could hire him as Assistant Head Coach for Offense. It's been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I don't know, those shark eyes bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah.... I don't know what qualifications Mike has to be President nor the qualifications Kyle has to be HC. Â But Mike has been (past tense) a good HC in the NFL and Kyle is viewed as an up-and-coming OC that may be a HC someday. Throw in Schwartz and this could be a good coaching staff. I would suggest that Kyle has as many qualifications (if not more) to be an NFL HC as most of the candidates the Bills interviewed so far (Reich, Gase, Quinn, Bevell, etc). Not saying he would be my #1 choice, just that he is on par with many of the other names being considered. My concern about Shanahan is historical. Although there are several examples of coaches who went from mediocre in their first HC job to winning a SB on their second, and a couple of examples of Super Bowl coaches taking a second team to the big dance, up to know not a single SB-winning coach has managed to win a Super Bowl with a different team. Playoffs, sure, and an SB appearance or two, but no victories. Do we really think that Mike Shanahan will buck that trend?Somebody has to be the first to do it. Why not Shanny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Where is it reported that the dual Shannys are in the lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This could be a terrible move. Yet, I think I will end up being really excited by something so bold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If coaches who've won before were more likely to win again, you'd think you'd see it in the numbers. But most SB's are won by first-timers. So your chances are better identifying the up-and-comer than going with a retread. Â That is my inclination: to go with a first- or second-time coach. You have more potential for improvement, and less chances of diminishing returns on the scale of Parcells, Johnson, etc. Here again, though, Bills history makes one worry about the chances of picking the right up-and-comer. That's why they play the games, right? Â I would suggest that Kyle has as many qualifications (if not more) to be an NFL HC as most of the candidates the Bills interviewed so far (Reich, Gase, Quinn, Bevell, etc). Not saying he would be my #1 choice, just that he is on par with many of the other names being considered. Somebody has to be the first to do it. Why not Shanny? Â Not a terrible argument, but 17 years of middling success since John Elway retired (and at least one hilarious takedown of his self-importance by Gregg Easterbrook) have made me skeptical about the Genius of Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Living down here in MD. All we heard was RG3 24 hours a day. Have no idea what to think about this move. I know in pressers Shanny was always in defense mode. I remember the fans calling for Kyle to be removed however dad would never fire his son...worst move possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Shanahan is from the beautiful Chicago inner suburb of Oak Park, Illinois (home of the greatest concentration of Frank Lloyd Wright homes in the US). He went to Eastern Illinois University. Chicago is home to him as much as any place can be, and I can't imagine that if given the choice he'll choose Buffalo over one of the most historic franchises in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) My concern about Shanahan is historical. Although there are several examples of coaches who went from mediocre in their first HC job to winning a SB on their second, and a couple of examples of Super Bowl coaches taking a second team to the big dance, up to know not a single SB-winning coach has managed to win a Super Bowl with a different team. Playoffs, sure, and an SB appearance or two, but no victories. Do we really think that Mike Shanahan will buck that trend? No!!! He is not as hungry as he was. We don't have Elway and Davis on the roster either. He is a .500 coach. Edited January 6, 2015 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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