Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think if he leaves Buffalo it's go to the NFL office. I could see as commissioner somewhere down the road. This is not even a little surprising. This is the exact reason that I think that his power gets shifted. He will be offered a position of high power in Pegula Sports and Entertainment or he will take a president job elsewhere. RB has a stellar reputation around pro sports for the reasons mentioned by LaCanfora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) I think if he leaves Buffalo it's go to the NFL office. I could see as commissioner somewhere down the road. I think that is a possibility. He has something that almost no one else has and that is universal respect from the owners. He worked as one of them for a few years and pointed up the highest price sale in league history. He is a guy that they all know and respect. My guess is that he will be the head of a new TEAMBO (team business operations) department if he goes to the league. TEAMBO exists in the NBA & NHL and it is basically teams working together to maximize and grow their business operations. It's done through best practices, etc... The NFL always copies the NBA when it comes to the way to operate the business side. I could see them following suit here as well. RB would be the perfect person to head that up. Edited December 31, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Really PTR? How many Toronto games did you go to ? How many did we win? I guess you like selling off home field advantage? For the almighty buck! Oh, and he sucked as a GM at least Ralph figured that out quick. I think it's been pretty widely reported and accepted as truth that Russ didn't feel qualified as a GM and "fired" himself -- but please continue with your rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The license fee part of the clubs are nonshared (roughly 1/2 the price). The boxes are close to (if not at) capacity. A new stadium presents new inventory in the form of signage, clubs, naming rights (which they could have now), parking lots, etc... Those areas and many, many more are all "sellable" inventory. We currently have an old slab stadium without the party areas and such that you can sell. It is an ENORMOUS difference. One of the club seat issues is the location. A new stadium will allow the team to attach a license fee to the most desired inventory and develop $ that way. It's pretty long and complicated and I don't feel like typing much more but those are a few examples. youve been hitting home runs with your replies in this thread -- i think anyone that after reading through this doesnt see what your saying just doesnt want to even if you typed out a full thesis on the topic. really all it takes to understand the situation is realizing: 1) brandon didnt make/veto football decisions. he has been a voice in discussions, but as a high level executive and acting owner, thats always the case. 2) that by growing non-shared revenue he has both kept the team afloat AND given the guys like overdorf/littman/GMs the resources needed to make the moves they want to make (those decisions not always right, but atleast they were empowered by both his leadership and growing of resources). theres a lot of mud and murkiness to get lost in through a decade plus, but at its core i think those are the 2 biggest issues and hes been an asset not a liability as best anyone can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham Word to me today out of Oakland: Brandon to Raiders might've been a thing if Pegulas weren't new Bills owners. Brandon staying with Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think that is a possibility. He has something that almost no one else has and that is universal respect from the owners. He worked as one of them for a few years and pointed up the highest price sale in league history. He is a guy that they all know and respect. My guess is that he will be the head of a new TEAMBO (team business operations) department if he goes to the league. TEAMBO exists in the NBA & NHL and it is basically teams working together to maximize and grow their business operations. It's done through best practices, etc... The NFL always copies the NBA when it comes to the way to operate the business side. I could see them following suit here as well. RB would be the perfect person to head that up. would also make sense -- and would return him to having upward mobility in his career track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Not only did he work as one of them, but also has experience as a GM, though I do think it was a more symbolic position and completely agree with eballs comment that he resigned and doubt he ever even wanted to be the GM in the first place. He probably also would be the first commissioner with a sports marketing background which when you consider the other owners biggest want it to make more money, what could be better than his background. I think that is a possibility. He has something that almost no one else has and that is universal respect from the owners. He worked as one of them for a few years and pointed up the highest price sale in league history. He is a guy that they all know and respect. My guess is that he will be the head of a new TEAMBO (team business operations) department if he goes to the league. TEAMBO exists in the NBA & NHL and it is basically teams working together to maximize and grow their business operations. It's done through best practices, etc... The NFL always copies the NBA when it comes to the way to operate the business side. I could see them following suit here as well. RB would be the perfect person to head that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think if he leaves Buffalo it's go to the NFL office. I could see as commissioner somewhere down the road. Good call. He would be a good commish. Unlike goodell who meddles in bush league crap (like player discipline), I could see Russ just driving the league to make tons of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Congrats Kirby! You seem to have made a clear point and worn down those who want to blame Russ for how he scouted the SEC and coached the OLine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think it's been pretty widely reported and accepted as truth that Russ didn't feel qualified as a GM and "fired" himself -- but please continue with your rant. So in your opinion repeating something long enough is then accepted as truth? Show a link where that is " truth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The Bills may not be a winning football team but they are a viable business - despite a small market and losing record. That ROI is going to have to be ratcheted up mega high after Pegs dropped $1.4 VERY large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This is what I think. Pegula will create a role for him that includes the Bills, Sabres, Harbor Center, downtown Buffalo, One Buffalo, Pegula Sports and Entertainment, the new stadium, etc. It could be a well paying great job. It's possible that he likes the idea of the NFL more, but Oakland is where NFL people go to die. Where do you all see Ted Black fitting into that? He has been with TPEGS longer, and you would think is closer to the Pegulas. I have no idea, and the Bills did cost 7x the Sabres, but just curious your thoughts. BTW, I think Russ has done an incredible job here and would hate to see him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think it's safe to say the nfl plans on sticking with goodell for awhile. They will almost certainly appoint someone with a law background next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Where do you all see Ted Black fitting into that? He has been with TPEGS longer, and you would think is closer to the Pegulas. I have no idea, and the Bills did cost 7x the Sabres, but just curious your thoughts. BTW, I think Russ has done an incredible job here and would hate to see him leave. I would think that Black would stay right where he is. Russ would advise him, but doesn't really need to tamper much with what Black is doing. A lot of people don't seem to like him, but I like Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 good. take him. And he can take all his Teflon suits with him!!! His best skill is deflecting attention and responsibility for the failures of the organization away from himself. He's damn good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Congrats Kirby! You seem to have made a clear point and worn down those who want to blame Russ for how he scouted the SEC and coached the OLine. I also thank you and appreciate your clarity on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Where do you all see Ted Black fitting into that? He has been with TPEGS longer, and you would think is closer to the Pegulas. I have no idea, and the Bills did cost 7x the Sabres, but just curious your thoughts. BTW, I think Russ has done an incredible job here and would hate to see him leave. From what I understand Black was/is in trouble. The guys from the Harbor Center (can't think of his name) was rumored to take his job prior to the sale. My guess is that they both (if they want) report to Russ. It feels to me like RB will end up as Pegula's right hand man on the business side. I kind of thought that before reading Graham's tweet. Edited December 31, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 So in your opinion repeating something long enough is then accepted as truth? Show a link where that is " truth". I don't have a link, I'm sorry, but Russ has made comments himself to that effect over the years. He got out of that GM role as quickly as he could, and every time someone has asked him about football decisions over the last couple of years he completely defers to the GM and coach -- despite the fact that his power within the organization has increased, not decreased, since his failed stint as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 From what I understand Black was/is in trouble. The guys from the Harbor Center (can't think of his name) was rumored to take his job prior to the sale. My guess is that they both (if they want) report to Russ. It feels to me like RB will end up as Pegula's right hand man on the business side. I kind of thought that before reading Graham's tweet. Interesting. You mean Koelmel? The banker guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Im pretty sure that was an unfounded and isolate Bucky Gleason rumor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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