1B4IDie Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I know, they didn't make the playoffs and I'm as bitter as anyone else. It's beyond frustrating to see us waste such a great defensive performance and see our offense under-achieve with this coaching staff. However.... For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say that we are a playoff caliber team. It's not that we are going to finish close to a playoff record. It's that, we all know that the Texans and Chiefs games were ones that we absolutely should have won. In fact, if we played them again 10 more times, I believe we absolutely would have. We lost, I get it. We aren't in the playoffs, I get it. But this team, absolutely could have made it in this year regardless of all the crap we saw and it wouldn't be a stretch. It's not like previous years of, well if we could have just had 2 more wins or something like that. We not only could have had two more wins, we absolutely should have those two wins. Maybe this is coming off stupid, but it makes sense in my mind right now. And it's something I haven't been able to think or feel in a long time. With that, fire Hackett. If Marrone won't, then fire him too. Trade for a QB or sell the farm for a rookie in the first round. And resign this defense with whatever it takes. We are there. We really are. A Playoff team beats the Raiders. The Bills have a playoff D and DIII offense. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Playoff teams beat the Chiefs and MIami and the RAIDERS when the playoffs are on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Not a playoff team IMO They lost nearly every game vs. the teams battling for the playoffs in their conference: NE, Houston, KC, San Diego, Denver, and Miami. Beat Miami and Cleveland who were also proven to be pretenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Agreed. We got blown by New England at Home. Well that was nice of them. Even after they blew us out at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Having a good QB is the great equalizer. Just about every playoff team is about an 8-9 win team with flaws-- but they have QBs who win them a game or two when they need it. Rivers against the niners last week is a good example. I thought what Marrone said yesterday was telling-- that without very good QB play you have a chance to win 10 or 11 games at best. He gets it. That's why our margin for error is so small. Problem is, finding a decent QB is almost impossible based on just skill in drafting. You need to get lucky. And luck is something that the Bills have precious little of. Otherwise you dumpster dive, and the results are predictable. That's the problem when only about a dozen human beings can play QB in the NFL at a B/B+ level or better. Edited December 24, 2014 by Casey D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Not even close. This clunky offense will doom us for years under marrone and co. Edited December 24, 2014 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Playoff caliber defense. Marrone screwed up the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say that we are a playoff caliber team. ... We are there. We really are. The Bills are absolutely NOT a playoff caliber team. The offense is pathetic, and there is little hope of it getting much better this off season. The defense and special teams are playoff caliber, but everything on the offensive side of the ball from coaches to players, with the exception of a couple players, are not. How can you make a statement about the Bills being "there" with that offense, no QB, and no first round pick this draft? Edited December 24, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It's ironic how offensively going into the season the expectation was to have a very good rushing team and our ground game has been a gigantic steaming pile of dog poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It's ironic how offensively going into the season the expectation was to have a very good rushing team and our ground game has been a gigantic steaming pile of dog poo Spiller was hurt most of the season, and not an every down back even when healthy. I love Fred, but he is old, the other backs are rejects from other teams, and the offensive line is mediocre on a good day. That doesn't add up to a good running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 We lost to a 2-12 team. This is not a playoff caliber team We will likey get smoked by the Pats* this weekend in a game that's means absolutly zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 We were playoff caliber on one side of the ball, I don't understand why people are getting that confused with being a Playoff Caliber TEAM as our offense was clearly below average in the league This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 The Bills made the playoffs? Yes they did. Where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Playoff caliber? Bah, the Bills were Super Bowl caliber. Make that Super Bowl DYNASTY caliber. We just needed to stop being such pussywhips and blow the other losers halfway to china!! WTF is with the pessimism? I BILLIEVE! BILLIEVE! BILLIEVE!! AHHHHHHHH!!!! AAAAAAHHH!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uqjznmTp80 Edited December 24, 2014 by negativo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I know, they didn't make the playoffs and I'm as bitter as anyone else. It's beyond frustrating to see us waste such a great defensive performance and see our offense under-achieve with this coaching staff. However.... For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say that we are a playoff caliber team. It's not that we are going to finish close to a playoff record. It's that, we all know that the Texans and Chiefs games were ones that we absolutely should have won. In fact, if we played them again 10 more times, I believe we absolutely would have. We lost, I get it. We aren't in the playoffs, I get it. But this team, absolutely could have made it in this year regardless of all the crap we saw and it wouldn't be a stretch. It's not like previous years of, well if we could have just had 2 more wins or something like that. We not only could have had two more wins, we absolutely should have those two wins. Maybe this is coming off stupid, but it makes sense in my mind right now. And it's something I haven't been able to think or feel in a long time. With that, fire Hackett. If Marrone won't, then fire him too. Trade for a QB or sell the farm for a rookie in the first round. And resign this defense with whatever it takes. We are there. We really are. My opinion is they are not a playoff caliber team and still far from it, they have no offense, poor coaching, poor drafting, and a weak FO. We lost to a 2-12 team. This is not a playoff caliber team We will likey get smoked by the Pats* this weekend in a game that's means absolutly zip Finally some reality. :thumbsup: The Bills are absolutely NOT a playoff caliber team. The offense is pathetic, and there is little hope of it getting much better this off season. The defense and special teams are playoff caliber, but everything on the offensive side of the ball from coaches to players, with the exception of a couple players, are not. How can you make a statement about the Bills being "there" with that offense, no QB, and no first round pick this draft? Someone else who lives in Realville. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I know, they didn't make the playoffs and I'm as bitter as anyone else. It's beyond frustrating to see us waste such a great defensive performance and see our offense under-achieve with this coaching staff. However.... For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say that we are a playoff caliber team. It's not that we are going to finish close to a playoff record. It's that, we all know that the Texans and Chiefs games were ones that we absolutely should have won. In fact, if we played them again 10 more times, I believe we absolutely would have. We lost, I get it. We aren't in the playoffs, I get it. But this team, absolutely could have made it in this year regardless of all the crap we saw and it wouldn't be a stretch. It's not like previous years of, well if we could have just had 2 more wins or something like that. We not only could have had two more wins, we absolutely should have those two wins. Maybe this is coming off stupid, but it makes sense in my mind right now. And it's something I haven't been able to think or feel in a long time. With that, fire Hackett. If Marrone won't, then fire him too. Trade for a QB or sell the farm for a rookie in the first round. And resign this defense with whatever it takes. We are there. We really are. Not even !@#$ing close. Both Guards aren't good, we do not have a QB on this roster worth a ****. We wasted next years 1st on a WR that was clearly 3rd in his draft class. And yes Hackett sucks as a play caller. This team over achieved big time due to the Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It's ironic how offensively going into the season the expectation was to have a very good rushing team and our ground game has been a gigantic steaming pile of dog poo It's because as TheTruthHurts so eloquently put it. "Marrone screwed up the OL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 if we were a playoff caliber team then we would be in the playoffs /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 i like the positivism by the OP. I think we need to remind ourselves who we beat and how we beat them. The teams that beat Buffalo were more complete teams. Buffalo does not have a qb and does not have great coaching on the offensive side of the ball. I wish it was something more but i am not sold. Bills will probably be the 'sleeper' team from the AFC heading into next year. With the season on the line the Bills blew it in Oakland against a 2-12 team. To me that is inexcusable. How do you change that? Not sure, the is up the the Pegula's to figure out. There is where you need to point your optimism at, new ownership. Maybe this will be the culture change and ultimately bring a SB winner to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hansen Forever Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 We had a playoff calibre defense with a high school level offensive. If only they could build an offense without losing the defensive people, then perhaps the Bills will make the playoffs and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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