boyst Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Bills cannot go into next season with EJ and Orton as the front runners. EJ is an unknown who at this point can not get it done. Orton has proven he cannot get it done. I am all for bringing in any of these guys to see if they can push this team over the edge. SO we should just go with Orton or EJ? Yep. I'd have stuck with Fitzpatrick on the roster to this point. Sure, he'd have cost us some money, but it'd not be much different then Orton/Kolb/Leinert/Palmer/Lewis/Tuel/Young/etc. We set ourselves back just ditching Fitzpatrick after we set ourselves back even further extending him like we did. History was against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If it were that easy everyone would be doing it. Agreed but we are in much better shape from a talent standpoint than we were from 2 years ago. And when you look back at Cuse offenses under Marrone, they aren't very impressive. Yep. I'd have stuck with Fitzpatrick on the roster to this point. Sure, he'd have cost us some money, but it'd not be much different then Orton/Kolb/Leinert/Palmer/Lewis/Tuel/Young/etc. We set ourselves back just ditching Fitzpatrick after we set ourselves back even further extending him like we did. History was against us. Fitz didn't want to be here. In a perfect world, we keep Fitz and develop EJ behind him. Fitz is limited but he's not a kitty cat like Orton. I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) The Bills cannot go into next season with EJ and Orton as the front runners. EJ is an unknown who at this point can not get it done. Orton has proven he cannot get it done. I am all for bringing in any of these guys to see if they can push this team over the edge. SO we should just go with Orton or EJ? Right now, developing EJM is the only option with any upside, however unlikely it might be. Just keep EJM and Orton, and draft another QB. And please don't tell me using the 2nd round pick on a Guard is the right choice. There are ways to get good lineman (if a real attempt is made), a QB pretty much has to be drafted. It's gonna take years... Edited December 11, 2014 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Agreed but we are in much better shape from a talent standpoint than we were from 2 years ago. And when you look back at Cuse offenses under Marrone, they aren't very impressive. Fitz didn't want to be here. In a perfect world, we keep Fitz and develop EJ behind him. Fitz is limited but he's not a kitty cat like Orton. I miss him. No, Fitz did not want to restructure his contract. Can you blame him? Even going to bumfugg he'd rake in serious dough. They forced their own hand with Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Honestly, I don't seen anybody on that list that is so much better than what we already have. Cutler is the only one I think is clearly better than Orton and/or Manuel, if he is in the right situation. And his cost his way too high. The other guys? Sure, some of them are intriguing, but not at what they would cost. Kaepernick is FAR better than the Bills' QBs. He's had two very good seasons in the league; http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KaepCo00.htm . He is a good player. Edited December 11, 2014 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Kaepernick is FAR better than the Bills' QBs. He's had two very good seasons in the league. True. He's also had the far superior coach. Harbaugh has been maxing out Qbs since the University of San Diego. Hackett vs. Harbaugh is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 There isn't one guy on that list, that I think has any better of a chance of leading the Bills to a championship than EJ Manuel. In other words, they all suck, and none will ever win a Super Bowl. Wow. Just when I think it can't get any worse when it comes to Bills fans evaluation of QB's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Every single NFL team runs elements of the read-option; it's not just for running offenses. Even the hint of read-option with Orton at QB would kill opposing DCs with laughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 No, Fitz did not want to restructure his contract. Can you blame him? Even going to bumfugg he'd rake in serious dough. They forced their own hand with Fitz. true enough. Once again Bills fugged themselves and we will have to wait years. Unless EJ is truly the Madonna. it could happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 #1 - Bradford #2 - Mallett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think that Kap could still be a star in this league. He needs the right situation but has all the tools and has won in this league (a lot). I'd deal that 2nd for him in a heartbeat but I highly doubt he hits the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Why do people talk of Jay Cutler like he's something special? Watch him play, he's just marginally better than Fitz was/is. Thanks, but no thanks on Cutler. 3 years after he would sign here, we would be on here debating the same things that this thread is about right now. And what should be a major indictment on the current coaching staff and management, is is unfathomable to think that they wouldn't even consider signing or drafting another quarterback in the off season. It was plain to anyone that knows this game that drives us all crazy on here that NONE of the three QB's on the roster were remotely good enough to advance this team. Then in an act of desparation, they sign Orton. There were a few good quarterbacks in the draft this year (Jimmy Garappalo) for example that could have been had in the 2-5th rounds, yet again we elect to "go with what we got," like that has worked at all for us over the last decade or longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 After looking at that list, I think the best chance for the Bills is to petition the league to roll back the rules about 20 years so the defense can make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Forget Cutler with his contract we can sign a big time player & trade fir Foles. So for the Cutler fans would u rather have him or Foles & one of the Thomas bros from Denver or Revis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yawn. None interest me. None of the FA's coming out interest me. Mariotta or Winston are not all that impressive, either. Agreed. We are stuck...and so are the rest of the NFL teams. EJ is our QB if Orton falters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 RG3 or Kaep, if and only if, the team hires a HC like Art Briles. yes and we drop out the NFL and join the NCAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-town Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Id trade a 4th and Nigel Bradham for Cutler...thats about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Id trade a 4th and Nigel Bradham for Cutler...thats about it That's too much IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Id trade a 4th and Nigel Bradham for Cutler...thats about it step away from the crack pipe. Nigel is important part of the Bills D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You could get Cutler with a 6th round pick but then you take on the contract too. He is a cancer but he is way better than anything we have here. He and this defense make the playoffs no doubt. I want nothing to do with Jay Cutler. Living in Chicago and watching almost every game he's played here, he is exactly who I thought he was when they traded to get him in the first place. Cutler has talent but is a coach killer because he doesn't seem to be coachable. I hear all the time how he has potential to be good, but at some point potential isn't there anymore and you just are what you are, and in Cutler's case that's a third tier QB. That being said, the contract is structured in an odd way, so you're really only trading for 2 years at like $17m per year. After that he can be cut with little cap ramifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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