IDBillzFan Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 A black minister's view of the Ferguson fiasco. http://www.thegospel...hts-on-ferguson Brave commentary. The plight of the young black man will never improve until more of them understand the root of their problems. Unfortunately, the race baiters can't have that or they shut off their cash cow and the progressives can't have that or they lose their votes. So inevitably, the preacher will be marginalized as an "Uncle Tom" and the progressives will shut it down farther by mocking his Christian faith, and the number of boys raised without a father will increase as quickly as the government can hand out incentives for single black mothers to increase their income by popping out more fatherless sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Brave commentary. The plight of the young black man will never improve until more of them understand the root of their problems. Unfortunately, the race baiters can't have that or they shut off their cash cow and the progressives can't have that or they lose their votes. So inevitably, the preacher will be marginalized as an "Uncle Tom" and the progressives will shut it down farther by mocking his Christian faith, and the number of boys raised without a father will increase as quickly as the government can hand out incentives for single black mothers to increase their income by popping out more fatherless sons. No one cares about young black men. The administration published "The Life of Julia," not "The Life of Jamal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Charles Barkley agreed with the decision. But he's just an Uncle Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Couldn't agree more. Obama is a festering boil on the azz of race relations in this country. The only silver lining of this is that it has brought race relationships in to light and hopefully we can continue to develop as a country of equality among all groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The only silver lining of this is that it has brought race relationships in to light and hopefully we can continue to develop as a country of equality among all groups. And that, right there, it the problem in a nutshell. Those who focus on group identities will never let us get past the issue of race. The only cure is a focus on the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 And that, right there, it the problem in a nutshell. Those who focus on group identities will never let us get past the issue of race. The only cure is a focus on the individual. This. As long as people continue to trumpet the "equal groups" lines there will always be people showing up to contend that the groups are not equal or that every group should have their own continent or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 And that, right there, it the problem in a nutshell. Those who focus on group identities will never let us get past the issue of race. The only cure is a focus on the individual. Oh, honey, hush You know what I was saying, though others may mean it as you intend. All groups of people, old and young, male and female, all races and all ethnicities, all groups of people need to simply consider themselves a person among the people. To first look toward themselves as an individual of a community not from a community. A community of other individuals who en masse a unit of solidarity toward the greater good of one another individually. Chill pill, baby. This. As long as people continue to trumpet the "equal groups" lines there will always be people showing up to contend that the groups are not equal or that every group should have their own continent or whatever. Like the 1% holding back the 99%? It is just so much easier to play that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Like the 1% holding back the 99%? It is just so much easier to play that game. And humans love it. Anyplace they can find to root their identity in, and then find others who root their identity similarly and hang out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 several black teens beat a Bosnian guy, basically a random white guy to death with hammers near St. Louis. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/30/st-louis-protesters-motorist_n_6245628.html They are trying to say this is not Ferguson related. Guess the blacks have it out for the Bosnians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 several black teens beat a Bosnian guy, basically a random white guy to death with hammers near St. Louis. http://www.huffingto..._n_6245628.html They are trying to say this is not Ferguson related. Guess the blacks have it out for the Bosnians. Also not a "hate" crime. Apparently they beat him to death with love and hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 several black teens beat a Bosnian guy, basically a random white guy to death with hammers near St. Louis. http://www.huffingto..._n_6245628.html They are trying to say this is not Ferguson related. Guess the blacks have it out for the Bosnians. Probably a Bosnian Muslim. So good riddance, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Probably a Bosnian Muslim. So good riddance, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 A black minister's view of the Ferguson fiasco. http://www.thegospel...hts-on-ferguson Wow! Finally I read something on Ferguson where I agree with almost every word! (I do disagree with him that it's a waste of effort to try to make some changes to policing) I suppose these words make him an "Oreo" or a preacher of "respectability politics", which I haven't yet been able to define (seems to be one of those "can't define it but know it when I see it" things). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 several black teens beat a Bosnian guy, basically a random white guy to death with hammers near St. Louis. http://www.huffingto..._n_6245628.html They are trying to say this is not Ferguson related. Guess the blacks have it out for the Bosnians. Apparently the same gang of thugs attacked another man earlier that evening, but he fought them off and got away. Haven't seen the race or ethnicity of the first person attacked. Evidently the thugs were vandalizing the car of they guy who was killed (beating on the trunk with hammers while he was stopped at a stoplight) and instead of hitting the gas and driving away, he got out to confront them. No one cares about young black men. The administration published "The Life of Julia," not "The Life of Jamal." I am fervently hoping to read somewhere that this sign is a hoax: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3zki1jCQAASivn.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That's the one thing I don't understand. If you're in a car at a stoplight and people walk up and start hitting your car with hammers, why get out of the car? Drive off. Run the light, don't get out of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Probably a Bosnian Muslim. So good riddance, right? I figured I would leave that one there, and someone would end up typing what you did. It was a thought that went through my head, and then I thought, I bet DC or Greggy says exactly what you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That's the one thing I don't understand. If you're in a car at a stoplight and people walk up and start hitting your car with hammers, why get out of the car? Drive off. Run the light, don't get out of the car. Or, as I would likely do, put it in reverse and give them something to be angry about. I figured I would leave that one there, and someone would end up typing what you did. It was a thought that went through my head, and then I thought, I bet DC or Greggy says exactly what you did. You've got to admit it was funny, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I am fervently hoping to read somewhere that this sign is a hoax: https://pbs.twimg.co...i1jCQAASivn.jpg You are? Why?? I'm dying to read that it's been verified as true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I figured I would leave that one there, and someone would end up typing what you did. It was a thought that went through my head, and then I thought, I bet DC or Greggy says exactly what you did. I'm just shocked a thought went through your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Or, as I would likely do, put it in reverse and give them something to be angry about. You've got to admit it was funny, though. Only funny because I knew it was coming and who would say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Only funny because I knew it was coming and who would say it. If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 You are? Why?? I'm dying to read that it's been verified as true! Not to be: http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/fergusonsign.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm just shocked a thought went through your head. Well, it did go clean through and didn't hit anything in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The St Louis police want these guys fined or suspended and an apology. The Rams said no way. The NFL said they won't do anything. Can't wait until one of these idiots is pulled over for speeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The St Louis police want these guys fined or suspended and an apology. The Rams said no way. The NFL said they won't do anything. Can't wait until one of these idiots is pulled over for speeding. full cavity search, there is weed somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 full cavity search, there is weed somewhere. Or, as you call it, "just another Friday night." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The St Louis police want these guys fined or suspended and an apology. The Rams said no way. The NFL said they won't do anything. Can't wait until one of these idiots is pulled over for speeding. The Police asking for an apology is proof the police are completely out of touch with reality. People, even athletes, have the right to protest anything they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Or, as you call it, "just another Friday night." Haha, as I call it? I am playing along with the former response. Terrible assumption. If it is normal traffic stop they better not do anything without probable cause. Edited December 2, 2014 by Security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The Police asking for an apology is proof the police are completely out of touch with reality. People, even athletes, have the right to protest anything they want. The Rams would have been well within their rights to discipline these players if they so chose. Athletes have the right to protest anything they want...on their own time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The Rams would have been well within their rights to discipline these players if they so chose. Athletes have the right to protest anything they want...on their own time. Sure they would. But they didn't. Nor did the NFL, so what's your point? It's not on the Police to tell the Rams, or their players, what's appropriate in terms of protest. We do not live in a police state, no matter how many tanks the local PD has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 People, even athletes, have the right to protest anything they want. No matter how stupid they look. Because lets be honest...in the end, they look pretty stupid protesting the death of a two-bit thug who died trying to beat up a cop and take his gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Sure they would. But they didn't. Nor did the NFL, so what's your point? It's not on the Police to tell the Rams, or their players, what's appropriate in terms of protest. We do not live in a police state, no matter how many tanks the local PD has. They asked, the Rams said no. What's your issue with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 They asked, the Rams said no. What's your issue with it? That they asked in the first place, let alone went public with their plea. They're the police, not the dictators of what can or cannot be talked about or protested about. Even thinking they have a right to say anything on the matter as an organization shows a complete disregard for every civil liberty and liberty we're supposed to revere as Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think athletes taking a political stand should be reserved for when they are finished playing. I can't see how it helps anything, it cannot help them in contract negotiations, no way the agent would say go right ahead, if they team was asked they would say no, this is divisive. Should they get in trouble from the NFL? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That they asked in the first place, let alone went public with their plea. They're the police, not the dictators of what can or cannot be talked about or protested about. Even thinking they have a right to say anything on the matter as an organization shows a complete disregard for every civil liberty and liberty we're supposed to revere as Americans. They have a right to ask. They don't have a right to expect, however. Except in as much as the NFL continually professes support of servicemen and first responders and such. Frankly, if you're upset about the police asking a sports league to portray them in a good light, you're either equally upset about the league's persistence in doing so over the past 14+ years, or you've been asleep for two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 They have a right to ask. They don't have a right to expect, however. Except in as much as the NFL continually professes support of servicemen and first responders and such. Frankly, if you're upset about the police asking a sports league to portray them in a good light, you're either equally upset about the league's persistence in doing so over the past 14+ years, or you've been asleep for two decades. "The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology." That sounds like a demand to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 "The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology." That sounds like a demand to me. That sounds like either. Don't tell me what a reporter said...what'd the SLPOA themselves say? Doesn't change my point that for so long we've treated "those who serve" as above and distinct from the citizenry of our country that we shouldn't at all be surprised when they act like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 No matter how stupid they look. Because lets be honest...in the end, they look pretty stupid protesting the death of a two-bit thug who died trying to beat up a cop and take his gun. Nicely put. I think athletes taking a political stand should be reserved for when they are finished playing. I can't see how it helps anything, it cannot help them in contract negotiations, no way the agent would say go right ahead, if they team was asked they would say no, this is divisive. Should they get in trouble from the NFL? No. All I've heard all year is that athletes aren't entitled to due process from the league for acts unrelated to their employment, now I'm hearing they should be absolved of punishment for acts directly related to their employment. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This from a league that punishes you if you don't have your socks pulled up properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That sounds like either. Don't tell me what a reporter said...what'd the SLPOA themselves say? Doesn't change my point that for so long we've treated "those who serve" as above and distinct from the citizenry of our country that we shouldn't at all be surprised when they act like it. Sorry, I should have made that clear -- that's a direct quote from the SLPOA's statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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