DC Tom Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Anarchy Obfuscation with torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Anarchy Did you really just say that due process and the rule of law are anarchy? Well, that has to be among the top five dumbest things you've ever said. At least you don't try to cap yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Due process. Show tangible harm done to individuals, prove causation, prove liability, directly assess said liability to individuals. And even then, if it meets that standard, law (which this is not), does not work retroactively. In libertarian philosophy, people don't just get to make claims against you, obligating you to give them money. So redress for a social wide problem, could only be dealt with through litigation? And you would want this done for most everything? Pass a law, allow to sue, very limited government oversight? That would either lead to anarchy or judicial tyranny Edited December 14, 2015 by gatorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 So redress for a social wide problem, could only be dealt with through litigation? And you would want this done for most everything? Pass a law, allow to sue, very limited government oversight? That would either lead to anarchy or judicial tyranny What in the blue hell are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What in the blue hell are you talking about? If I may, TakeYouToTasker. It appears that our fellow poster, Gatorman has completely misunderstood your (rather obvious) point. and now he is fabricating a whole field of "what-ifs" that meander along his misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What in the blue hell are you talking about? Obfuscation by stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 They can't even breath the air in parts of India and china. It's kind of like our environmentalists have been so successful defeating the polluters and the sh. It eaters that want to vote for the pro pollution lobby that it doesn't seem like that big of an issue here. Which naturally is the fault of evil, rich Americans and all their carbon output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Which naturally is the fault of evil, rich Americans and all their carbon output. No, you didn't read his post closely enough. He blames the pro pollution lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 No, you didn't read his post closely enough. He blames the pro pollution lobby. You mean, you're not part of that lobby? I'm strongly pro-pollution. We need more particulates in the air to reduce the effects of climate change. It is the reduction in sulfur dioxide aerosols since 1970 that's caused the current warming trend, after all. Anti-acid-rain is pro-global-warming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You mean, you're not part of that lobby? I'm strongly pro-pollution. We need more particulates in the air to reduce the effects of climate change. It is the reduction in sulfur dioxide aerosols since 1970 that's caused the current warming trend, after all. Anti-acid-rain is pro-global-warming! Nope, not me. It's sounds like a noble cause though. My time is too occupied in trying to kill innocent citizens by way of supporting second amendment rights & the NRA to have any time left over to truly dedicate myself to the pro-pollution cause. I do dabble in the slaughter of baby Harp seals though, but that's only on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I do dabble in the slaughter of baby Harp seals though, but that's only on weekends. So you like to go clubbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Nope, not me. It's sounds like a noble cause though. My time is too occupied in trying to kill innocent citizens by way of supporting second amendment rights & the NRA to have any time left over to truly dedicate myself to the pro-pollution cause. I do dabble in the slaughter of baby Harp seals though, but that's only on weekends. I think you need to sleep less and lobby more! Kill the innocents!! Pollute the air!! Nuke the whales!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Which naturally is the fault of evil, rich Americans and all their carbon output. Thank an environmentalist then. You dirt kickers would keep us living like that I think you need to sleep less and lobby more! Kill the innocents!! Pollute the air!! Nuke the whales!! No "eat crap" slogan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 No "eat crap" slogan? No. I'm a Chef you dipshit. Besides no need to spend any of my precious time lobbying for that. The dumabass lazy poor people do that in their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Due process. Show tangible harm done to individuals, prove causation, prove liability, directly assess said liability to individuals. And even then, if it meets that standard, law (which this is not), does not work retroactively. In libertarian philosophy, people don't just get to make claims against you, obligating you to give them money. Way to be stand up and responsible...apparently the libertarian philosophy is "not my problem bro..." you are truly a credit to your country and a solid example of the TP... Edited December 15, 2015 by baskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What in the blue hell are you talking about? I'm trashing the idea that Libertarian government can actually keep the environment clean. The courts are already used. The EPA simply levels the playing field by providing the aggrieved party expert scientific research, lawyers and manpower to fight wealth corporations in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So you like to go clubbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm trashing the idea that Libertarian government can actually keep the environment clean. The courts are already used. The EPA simply levels the playing field by providing the aggrieved party expert scientific research, lawyers and manpower to fight wealth corporations in court. Obfuscation with unbelievable ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Obfuscation with unbelievable ignorance. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So redress for a social wide problem, could only be dealt with through litigation? And you would want this done for most everything? Pass a law, allow to sue, very limited government oversight? That would either lead to anarchy or judicial tyranny Tell that to proponents of gay marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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