TakeYouToTasker Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Plus civil wars aren't declared according to the Constitution or recognized by an international certifying body. That's what I'm saying. Not wars at all. Just civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/11/try-to-keep-up-earths-ozone-layer-is-recovering-but-that-is-making-global-warming-worse/ Nice story of an environmentalist's victory. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/11/try-to-keep-up-earths-ozone-layer-is-recovering-but-that-is-making-global-warming-worse/ And don't forget the victory over acid rain... ...which victory contributes heavily to global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) The Walrus and the New York Times As part of its cheerleading for the U.N. climate convention in Paris, the New York Times is running a series on What Climate Change Looks Like. First up are the walruses: This week, we’re featuring images that show how global warming has already impacted the world. Packed shoulder to shoulder, an estimated 35,000 Pacific walruses congregated on Alaska’s northwest coast near Point Lay last fall. Normally the mammals find ocean ice sheets to rest on, but as waters have warmed the ice sheets have disappeared. In seven of the last nine years swarms of walruses swam ashore for refuge, as shown above, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. The first time this happened was in 2007 when summer ice levels were at a record low. The Times is peddling ignorance here. Actually, the congregation of walruses on land is an age-old phenomenon known as “hauling out.” It has nothing to do with the volume of sea ice at any given time. In fact, the Times is not just peddling ignorance, it is recycling it. Today’s Times piece is paraphrased from a much-derided column by Gail Collins that ran in October 2014. We responded to that column in a post titled The Walrus and the Climate Hysterics. The best we can do is to quote what we wrote a year ago: Like the other manifestations of climate hysteria, the walrus crisis is entirely fabricated. First, let’s note what how great it is that you can find 35,000 Pacific walruses in one place. It is a sign of a thriving wildlife population, estimated to have doubled since the 1950s. Climate Depot has a thorough debunking of the walrus hype, beginning with Dr. Susan Crockford, a zoologist: The attempts by WWF and others to link this event to global warming is self-serving nonsense that has nothing to do with science…this is blatant nonsense and those who support or encourage this interpretation are misinforming the public. To be fair, misinforming the public is the Times’s specialty. If you want to learn a whole lot more about the walrus behavior in question, go here. Because its writers are so ill-informed, the New York Times is an especially laughable purveyor of politically-motivated climate hysteria. But in reality, the whole warmist enterprise is one big fraud, as is demonstrated on a daily basis. Edited December 2, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 So are we supposed to worry again? No, The ozone hole's only been studied since '79 and while there was a steady decline to a baseline in the 80's, it's stayed fairly constant since then. We don't know if there's a 30 year cyclical nature to it or not. Plus, the hole is only there during the Southern Hemisphere spring and summer, around 4-5 months. Plus plus, some years with a large hole there is a much stronger ozone concentration at the edges then the years with smaller holes. Hopefully some scientist somewhere is studying the cause of these more pertinent issues. We might actually learn something instead of all this guilt by association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) No, The ozone hole's only been studied since '79 and while there was a steady decline to a baseline in the 80's, it's stayed fairly constant since then. We don't know if there's a 30 year cyclical nature to it or not. Plus, the hole is only there during the Southern Hemisphere spring and summer, around 4-5 months. Plus plus, some years with a large hole there is a much stronger ozone concentration at the edges then the years with smaller holes. Hopefully some scientist somewhere is studying the cause of these more pertinent issues. We might actually learn something instead of all this guilt by association. Let me know as soon as you find out because once he heard about the hole, Beerboy stopped using deodorant. Ever since then he refuses, even though it doesn't even some in those spray bottles anymore. Edited December 2, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong about @POTUS' sanity. Maybe he really has lost his damn mind. https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/01/press-conference-president-obama … pic.twitter.com/86BmxDpQQe He continues to be an embarrassment to the country, on every subject. If he were President Bush, SNL would be doing another "Bushism" sketch & hundreds of reporters would be asking about fish in the streets. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong about @POTUS' sanity. Maybe he really has lost his damn mind. https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/01/press-conference-president-obama … pic.twitter.com/86BmxDpQQe He continues to be an embarrassment to the country, on every subject. . Except half of the people buy his bull ****. We are a nation of immigrants idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.wsvn.com/story/30132753/high-tides-cause-massive-flooding-in-south-florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.wsvn.com/story/30132753/high-tides-cause-massive-flooding-in-south-florida And global warming cooling climate change has exactly WHAT to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 And global warming cooling climate change has exactly WHAT to do with this? What a question, climate change is responsible for everything.....................you know that. I especially like the responses from the local Floridians to that article, reporting that the flooding has occurred for decades. That's what happens when you build in low level areas. but again...................Climate Change......................lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I lived in So Florida over 30 years ago and I remember the King Tides. Nothing new here but makes for good scare tactics. Hell even Al Gore showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I lived in So Florida over 30 years ago and I remember the King Tides. Nothing new here but makes for good scare tactics. Hell even Al Gore showed up. Yeah, well, you West Coast deniers will get a good look at global cooling warming climate change when you get your first look at a little thing the alarmists like to call El Nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah, well, you West Coast deniers will get a good look at global cooling warming climate change when you get your first look at a little thing the alarmists like to call El Nino. Hell they were talking just recently about the King Tides flooding streets in Marin just a couple weeks ago. And you know this whole El Nino thing's going to be a flop. Hyped worse than the 2015 Buffalo Bills........if that's even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I lived in So Florida over 30 years ago and I remember the King Tides. Nothing new here but makes for good scare tactics. Hell even Al Gore showed up. It's not worse now? How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's not worse now? How do you know? How do you know it is? Oh wait. Because someone told you. What was I thinking with that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How do you know it is? Oh wait. Because someone told you. What was I thinking with that question. Did you just finished with therapy or something? The therapist improved your confidence and here you are, all ready to take on the world. Or is it just new meds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Did you just finished with therapy or something? The therapist improved your confidence and here you are, all ready to take on the world. Or is it just new meds? So in other word, you have nothing. That's all you have to say. You have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's not worse now? How do you know? MHHW at Miami Beach has gotten lower over the past five years, not higher. And by a substantial amount - about 8 inches (7-8 times more than the estimated change in MSL this century). And tidal ranges are influenced far more by coastal geography than sea level. Tidal ranges can be anywhere from 6.5 feet in the open ocean, to between zero and sixty feet in coastal regions. So...no, it's not worse now. Or if it is, it's not because of global warming. Beachfront development and shipping channel dredging would play a far greater role than global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 MHHW at Miami Beach has gotten lower over the past five years, not higher. And by a substantial amount - about 8 inches (7-8 times more than the estimated change in MSL this century). And tidal ranges are influenced far more by coastal geography than sea level. Tidal ranges can be anywhere from 6.5 feet in the open ocean, to between zero and sixty feet in coastal regions. So...no, it's not worse now. Or if it is, it's not because of global warming. Beachfront development and shipping channel dredging would play a far greater role than global warming. Link please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's not worse now? How do you know? I don't know I'm just saying that it's been an issue for a long time and the "the sky is falling" reaction to something that's always happened is amusing. And noticed those first three words I used? You should try replying to a question with those sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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