TH3 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 You have to love the (consistent) media............... Christmas Eve was warmer in 1955. “Three fourths of the country was over 60 degrees, and Ashland Kansas, Geary Oklahoma and Encinal Texas were all over 90 degrees. Fort Lauderdale was 85 degrees. All of the stations below were over 60 degrees on Christmas Eve, 1955.” Plus: “Last winter, the East Coast had record cold. That was ignored because it was ‘less than 1% of the Earth.’ But this week, the Eastern US defines the global climate.” It’s all about the narrative. . Nature's narrative continues...2015 warmest in industrial age...the thing about the truth....its always true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/even-exxonmobil-says-climate-change-is-real-so-why-wont-the-gop/2015/12/06/913e4b12-9aa6-11e5-b499-76cbec161973_story.html To understand how dangerously extreme the Republican Party has become on climate change, compare its stance to that of ExxonMobil. No one would confuse the oil and gas giant with the Sierra Club. But if you visit Exxon’s website , you will find that the company believes climate change is real, that governments should take action to combat it and that the most sensible action would be a revenue-neutral tax on carbon — in other words, a tax on oil, gas and coal, with the proceeds returned to taxpayers for them to spend as they choose. With no government action, Exxon experts told us during a visit to The Post last week, average temperatures are likely to rise by a catastrophic (my word, not theirs) 5 degrees Celsius, with rises of 6, 7 or even more quite possible. “A properly designed carbon tax can be predictable, transparent, and comparatively simple to understand and implement,” Exxon says in a position paper titled “Engaging on climate change.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/even-exxonmobil-says-climate-change-is-real-so-why-wont-the-gop/2015/12/06/913e4b12-9aa6-11e5-b499-76cbec161973_story.html From your quote: in other words, a tax on oil, gas and coal, with the proceeds returned to taxpayers for them to spend as they choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 From your quote: in other words, a tax on oil, gas and coal, with the proceeds returned to taxpayers for them to spend as they choose Ha! You don't get that, do you? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/even-exxonmobil-says-climate-change-is-real-so-why-wont-the-gop/2015/12/06/913e4b12-9aa6-11e5-b499-76cbec161973_story.html It is increasingly stunning to me that someone with so little knowledge and understanding of how the world actually works is still able to find their way to a computer and post at a website. I don't know how you do it because, intellectually, all evidence suggests you are still being spoon-fed a jar of Gerber strained carrots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ha! You don't get that, do you? :lol: Oh yes the government is well know for returning tax proceeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It is increasingly stunning to me that someone with so little knowledge and understanding of how the world actually works is still able to find their way to a computer and post at a website. I don't know how you do it because, intellectually, all evidence suggests you are still being spoon-fed a jar of Gerber strained carrots. Well, to be fair, pop rocks are stunning to you. But a serious question. The way you write, are you a homosexual? Not that I care, just wondering. If you don't want to answer, I'll understand. Oh yes the government is well know for returning tax proceeds. Ya, I've never heard of a tax return either Just stop! You are killing me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 But a serious question. The way you write, are you a homosexual? Not that I care, just wondering. If you don't want to answer, I'll understand. ... Speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well, to be fair, pop rocks are stunning to you. But a serious question. The way you write, are you a homosexual? Not that I care, just wondering. If you don't want to answer, I'll understand. Ya, I've never heard of a tax return either Just stop! You are killing me! What does a tax return have to do with the government returning tax proceeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What does a tax return have to do with the government returning tax proceeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 "Returning tax proceeds" and "tax refund" ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Please explain to the class how tax proceeds from taxing oils companies will be returned to taxpayers through their tax returns. "Returning tax proceeds" and "tax refund" ARE NOT THE SAME THING. He didn't say tax refund though. IF he isReferring to tax refunds we can add a tax return to the many things he doesn't understand. Edited December 29, 2015 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 "Returning tax proceeds" and "tax refund" ARE NOT THE SAME THING. They are extremely similar though. So, yes, you have split a hair. Congrats Please explain to the class how tax proceeds from taxing oils companies will be returned to taxpayers through their tax returns. He didn't say tax refund though. IF he is Referring to tax refunds we can add a tax return to the many things he doesn't understand. What are "oils companies"? Angry and writing too fast? And there are several ways they can do it. No need for me to explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 They are extremely similar though. So, yes, you have split a hair. Congrats What are "oils companies"? Angry and writing too fast? And there are several ways they can do it. No need for me to explain No please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 They are extremely similar though. So, yes, you have split a hair. Congrats No, they aren't. They are legally, structurally, fiscally, and administrative very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 No, they aren't. They are legally, structurally, fiscally, and administrative very different. So are Coke and Pepsi, but they both are colas. No please explain. They both return taxes collected. You really needed that explained to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 So are Coke and Pepsi, but they both are colas. They both return taxes collected. You really needed that explained to you? No they return overpayment of taxes. How will taxing oil companies increase people's refunds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 No they return overpayment of taxes. How will taxing oil companies increase people's refunds? What's your argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What's your argument? That the government is not know for returning tax proceeds to the taxpayers. You know the thing I pointed out from your post and laughed hysterically at. What's yours? Because so far all you've demonstrated is that you don't know how tax returns and tax refunds work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 That the government is not know for returning tax proceeds to the taxpayers. You know the thing I pointed out from your post and laughed hysterically at. What's yours? Because so far all you've demonstrated is that you don't know how tax returns and tax refunds work. My point was that Exxon is even saying Global Warming is happening and we need to do something about it. And you laughed out of ignorance and changed the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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