NoSaint Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I look at that and I see a large male swinging an elbow (and a female backing off giving space so she wont get hit) Maybe im old fashion.....but to me that deserves a punch in the face. The ball wasnt meant for him....he knew it....he shouldnt have went for it to begin with. i dont disagree that he shouldve just let it be and she can have it - just think that some folks are getting a bit carried away with what the story actually is. yea, he boxed her out and caught it - but he caused no injury or anything. we had a poster argue he should be arrested for assault even. if you want to punch a guy for going after the catch - thats your choice. im not sure its any better though in the grand scheme, but have at it. an aside, the guys daughter has posted on instagram that they dont particularly care about the outcome and they got the ball and thats that. disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 What's the deal with the guy in the Brees jersey and fuzzy hat, thinking that he just might have the ball thrown to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) I was there yesterday and that was as "chippy" as I have ever seen Saints fans. Their team has been incredibly disappointing and it seemed like yesterday was the day that they started getting a little fed up. I'm not saying that was the whole reason behind that idiot keeping the ball but it was that kind of that epiphany when they realized that the Saints aren't very good. did anyone boo? The Browns fans were booing their team. They turned awfully fast. Edited November 17, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/11/saints_fan_who_snagged_gresham.html?ath=1fb89705eccc9bfc0cdb9e2461dd9937#cmpid=nsltr_strybutton the guy speaks out - says he was grabbing it for his 8 year old grandson that sits in the section. still not a fan of him, but figured id share. im sure the kid wouldve benefited from the positive example more than the ball. Edited November 17, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) it looks like her head goes back and to the left...back and to left... back and to the left. this is entirely inconsistent from where the blow would have been delivered if it came from the dude. there had to be a second elbower. adding to the intrigue is that grassy knoll that appears 3 rows beyond them just before the clip ends. OK... I lol'd... Edited November 17, 2014 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 did anyone boo? The Browns fans were booing their team. They turned awfully fast. There was some booing but it was more leaving early in disgust. In addition some people were getting aggressive with Bengals fans around me. It wasn't nasty compared to the Ralph but it was as bad as I have seen the dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Way to act like a grown ass man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) an aside, the guys daughter has posted on instagram that they dont particularly care about the outcome and they got the ball and thats that. disappointing. The skank apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. The proper thing would have been to either bat it back onto the field or throw it back onto the field. Sorry, the away team doesn't get to celebrate with its fans in my house. Your house huh. This thread has been enlightening. Edited November 18, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Honeslty, for sure, I thought that would happen. The fact that the girl was a Bengals fan, and the player tossing it to her was a Bengal, makes it all the worse. This has been getting so much attention the last 24 hours, I suspect we haven't seen the last of this girl. Staffs for Letterman, Kimmel and Fallon are probably trying to get her in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Does anyone sense a racial element to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 no. just a cranky old man who knew it was intended for the Bungles fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Does anyone sense a racial element to this? I've seen more than a few people arguing such on FB. Having a lot of New Orleans friends it's a pretty hot topic. The feedback seems to have a noticeable split by race, though not 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The skank apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. Your house huh. This thread has been enlightening. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This situation falls squarely in the who gives a f*ck category for me. Sure the ball was intended for the woman, sure the guy "stole" it, but who cares. From my view he didn't hit the woman at all. This is no different than a baseball game when a ball goes into the crowd. It is a free for all. Jail, assault, name calling?!?! Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This situation falls squarely in the who gives a f*ck category for me. Sure the ball was intended for the woman, sure the guy "stole" it, but who cares. From my view he didn't hit the woman at all. This is no different than a baseball game when a ball goes into the crowd. It is a free for all. Jail, assault, name calling?!?! Sheesh. Did the voice of reason just enter the conversation? Thanks for providing some common sense to the topic 122. You are right on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 CBS aired a interview with him this morning. he was sitting in what looked like his living room holding the ball. Said he didn't "see" the woman, and he got the ball for his grandson. ironically the kid was not there, so everyone involved took that comment with a grain of salt. The guy came off as a douchebag. And probably got a few bucks for the interview to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Congrats you both suck! I was at an away game about 12 years ago where a player from my team came up to give me his gloves. Yocal security guard stole it and laughed about putting it on EBay. Super cool moment. Ha ha, sorry about that. If it makes you feel any better you probably don't have much use for 12 year old Peerless Price gloves anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) This situation falls squarely in the who gives a f*ck category for me. Sure the ball was intended for the woman, sure the guy "stole" it, but who cares. From my view he didn't hit the woman at all. This is no different than a baseball game when a ball goes into the crowd. It is a free for all. Jail, assault, name calling?!?! Sheesh. A proper analogy is a baseball player tossing a ball to a specific fan and having an adult grab it instead and using force to do so. A random foul ball is a completely different situation. Edited November 18, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Did the voice of reason just enter the conversation? Thanks for providing some common sense to the topic 122. You are right on Thanks I feel like I am taking crazy pills reading this thread! Congrats you both suck! I was at an away game about 12 years ago where a player from my team came up to give me his gloves. Yocal security guard stole it and laughed about putting it on EBay. Super cool moment. What in the world does what happened to you 12 years ago have to do with this? Are you serious? I'm sure it sucked to have this happen but this means nothing in regards to this woman's situation. Add on to the fact that she was given another ball and who cares? Serious question, if you had been given those gloves where would they be right now 12 years later? In a box somewhere? A proper analogy is a baseball player tossing a ball to a specific fan and having an adult grab it instead and using force to do so. A random foul ball is a completely different situation. I agree completely and even when that happens it is a mad scramble. A guy died a couple of years ago trying to catch one of these! Is that guy a scumbag who deserves to be beaten? That is how this thread is reading to me. I think it is understood at all sporting events that children get first crack at any souvenir after that it is a free for all. Ladies first doesn't apply here, he didn't steal this ball, he caught it fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I agree completely and even when that happens it is a mad scramble. A guy died a couple of years ago trying to catch one of these! Is that guy a scumbag who deserves to be beaten? That is how this thread is reading to me. I think it is understood at all sporting events that children get first crack at any souvenir after that it is a free for all. Ladies first doesn't apply here, he didn't steal this ball, he caught it fair and square. I agree with you about the free for all when it comes to foul balls etc, and I agree with you about kids first. But to me if a player is intending to give a souvenir to a specific person, be it man, woman, child, or something in between, then it stops being a free for all. I would think most everyone would feel this way but maybe I'm wrong. I can see someone making a grab for it in the heat of the moment. But I would think after thinking about it, a rational adult would give it to the person for whom it was intended. And to me anyway, this adult is a scumbag. Edited November 18, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I agree with you about the free for all when it comes to foul balls etc, and I agree with you about kids first. But to me if a player is intending to give a souvenir to a specific person, be it man, woman, child, or something in between, then it stops being a free for all. I would think most everyone would feel this way but maybe I'm wrong. I can see someone making a grab for it in the heat of the moment. But I would think after thinking about it, a rational adult would give it to the person for whom it was intended. And to me anyway, this adult is a scumbag. ill agree that if a player is intending to target a specific person, its a courtesy to make sure that gift gets to the intended recipient. i dont think it makes him the lowest of the low and deserving a beat down - but i think a "c'mon man" from those around him is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I agree with you about the free for all when it comes to foul balls etc, and I agree with you about kids first. But to me if a player is intending to give a souvenir to a specific person, be it man, woman, child, or something in between, then it stops being a free for all. I would think most everyone would feel this way but maybe I'm wrong. I can see someone making a grab for it in the heat of the moment. But I would think after thinking about it, a rational adult would give it to the person for whom it was intended. And to me anyway, this adult is a scumbag. I agree that the ball was certainly intended for her but tough cookies. She ended up making out in the ordeal anyway. As for calling him a scumbag I just can't bring myself to care enough to even think that of him. He took a ball from another adult. I don't care. I don't care to get outraged for this woman and I don't care to get outraged at this guy. After watching the video my only reaction was people are upset about this?! As for the rational adult thing, I agree but An NFL game may not be the best place to find those people. ill agree that if a player is intending to target a specific person, its a courtesy to make sure that gift gets to the intended recipient. i dont think it makes him the lowest of the low and deserving a beat down - but i think a "c'mon man" from those around him is fair. Yeah this is about as far as I will go myself. Sure he shouldn't have done it and I probably would have busted his balls about it, but a national story? Calls for assault charges? Name Calling? Wanting to fight him? Can't get on board with any of that. I already have spent more time than I should have on this story lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 As for the rational adult thing, I agree but An NFL game may not be the best place to find those people. Totally agree there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Totally agree there! Agree?!!? You can't agree with me we are arguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Agree?!!? You can't agree with me we are arguing! I disagree!!!!! We are having a polite exchange of differing opinions! Edited November 18, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I remember once, in the early 80's (I was about 16) being at a Buffalo Stallions game. We were sitting in the front row of the nose-bleeds (oranges!). In between the action, they used to have a mascot who would come out and kick soccer balls up into the stands...cool red and black soccer balls. The balls rarely made it all the way up to the orange section. But, as me and my buddy were talking, I remember seeing a soccer ball heading my way, in my periphrial vision...I instinctively reached over the stands and grabbed it as it was on its' downward trajectory....I didint' realize, right next to me, some little kid (probably around 10) was trying to do the same thing...for whatever reason, it felt so great to catch that ball, it didn't dawn on me for a minute or two how disappointed the kid was. Of course, I gave it to him. In retrospect, I don't think he had a chance in hell of catching it, but he wanted it so bad, he likely would have jumped off the rail to catch it! Anyway, moral of the story, karma pays you back..the kids' dad, a few rows back, purchased a beer for me, and my buddy! Underage drinking at the Aud was way better than a stupid soccer ball! : Nothing like a heart warming story of underage drinking. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Bengals fan who had ball stolen by Saints curmudgeon gets last laugh http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/bengals-fan-who-had-ball-stolen-by-saints-curmudgeon-gets-last-laugh-213242802.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yeah I can imagine all those guys at a Bills game handing over that ball to a woman in a Patriots jersey.The stories are legion of fans wearing opposing jerseys getting beat up badly at the Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It's nice that Gresham reached out. The "me me, !@#$ everyone else" mentality of the old dude I guess I will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Bengals fan who had ball stolen by Saints curmudgeon gets last laugh http://sports.yahoo....-213242802.html See this guy did her a favor by stealing that ball. She got national exposure, a ball from the Saints, and now Gresham will be sending her a care package that I'm sure will be way better than just some ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I was home sick yesterday. The Today Show covered the story. Interviewed both the woman and the guy, and both agreed that the way the media edited the tape made it look much worse than it was. She is a 'Gals fan, and he was trying to get the ball for his "grandbaby." No hard feelings between the two of them. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 See this guy did her a favor by stealing that ball. She got national exposure, a ball from the Saints, and now Gresham will be sending her a care package that I'm sure will be way better than just some ball! Yup and now if the old dude and his wife and daughter all get the crabs I will believe in karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsswansonjr Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If he really wanted to do something special for his grandson, he should have given the ball to the individual it was intended for, that would have made a more lasting impression on his family than keeping the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I was home sick yesterday. The Today Show covered the story. Interviewed both the woman and the guy, and both agreed that the way the media edited the tape made it look much worse than it was. She is a 'Gals fan, and he was trying to get the ball for his "grandbaby." No hard feelings between the two of them. Case closed. Very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Someone needs to teach her how to box out better. Can't let no 70 year old take snatch your ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 ...he was trying to get the ball for his "grandbaby." that's a pretty sweet lie right there. i'm glad he did the right thing and made up a phony story so that our faith in humanity is restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 the comments on that youtube link are out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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