4merper4mer Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 By the way, we won't know if he was going to run a sneak, because KC jumped offside before the play was executed. Based on Marrone's gutless history, we probably would have punted anyway had they not jumped offside. Which they did. What percentage of QB sneaks are run after long snap counts? 2%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Henderson twitched and it was properly called. Brown and McKelvin, just don't fumble and you win. Exactly... Edited November 10, 2014 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 @john_wawrow Officials in press box do confirm that Henderson flinched. "It was a good call." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If this is on the top 5 10 15 complaints today then i think anyone needs to rewatch the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 The whining is embarrassing. Henderson twitched and it was properly called. Brown and McKelvin, just don't fumble and you win. Get over yourself. He barely moved a muscle, and their guy jumped at the snap count. They deserved the first down. But they also deserved to lose because they made idiotic mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The reason the Chiefs jumped was the snap count. We earned the first down and they took it away, and the game fell apart. Granted, Bryce Brown's fumble and Chandler's inability to fall on the loose ball did not help. The fumbled punt was the final straw. But the game turned on that nonsensical call. Another bad one was the offensive interference call on Chandler. He barely touched the guy. I can't believe a guy farts and they call him for false start, refs missed this one as usual. I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty. Traitor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Without either the Brown fumble or the McKelvin fumble the Bills win that game. In a vaccum. You are absolutely correct If this is on the top 5 10 15 complaints today then i think anyone needs to rewatch the game. Lol true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Pretty sure of all the plays you could single out, this might be the poorest choice. This is the one you choose? Neither of the fumbles that completely altered the entire game? This. The two fumbles and the offensive PI on Chandler were bigger plays than this one I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The reason the Chiefs jumped was the snap count. We earned the first down and they took it away, and the game fell apart. Granted, Bryce Brown's fumble and Chandler's inability to fall on the loose ball did not help. The fumbled punt was the final straw. But the game turned on that nonsensical call. Another bad one was the offensive interference call on Chandler. He barely touched the guy. You know, I really hate stuff like this. The bottom line is, good teams find a way to win when they should Mediocre teams let it get away Any time a team lets the game get away, you can dig in and find 6-10 plays where you can say "if that was different, we would have won" but it's BS If one play is different, the whole game from that point forward is different. That's what I've always told my kid when she's stressed about "if I hit that free throw we would have won" and it's true. It is very seldom a team fumbles 3 times, goes -2 in TO, and wins. If one wants to look for game-changing plays, one need look no further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I just watched it again. The call should be based upon WHAT CAUSED THE GUY TO JUMP OFFSIDES. He was looking straight ahead. There is no way on earth, hell, heaven, or any asteroid in existence that in any way THAT GUY SAW SEANTREL'S LEG TWITCH. HE WASN'T LOOKING AT THE GUY. HE JUMPED AT THE SNAP COUNT. IT WAS A ROTTEN CALL. I DON'T CARE IF HIS LEG MOVED. THE GUY NEVER SAW IT BECAUSE HE WASN'T LOOKING AT IT. THE GUY ACROSS FROM SEANTREL DIDN'T MOVE. THE GUY WHO JUMPED DID SO AS A RESULT OF THE SNAP COUNT. GOOD DAY. SORRY BOUT THE CAPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) https://mtc.cdn.vine...jwgJG79HGNyHL8P Was this posted yet? http://vine.co/v/Oi76lFauM3U video of it Edited November 10, 2014 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeah. Thanks for posting that. Now I can see that earth shattering infraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peterpan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Man Doug just can't win on the board today. He sent the team out and drew them offsides! It worked! First down Buffalo!!! But for some strange reason the refs gave the penalty to the wrong team. It's the the first time the refs botched this type of call and it won't be the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeah. Thanks for posting that. Now I can see that earth shattering infraction. So you admit you saw him move, but since he didn't move "enough" for your liking it should have been offsides? Give it up. It was a designed play to draw the defense offside (we certainly had no play called) and we flinched. Stop being a homer. If this was exact opposite and they called offsides on the Bills, you would be in an uproar about that flinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Stop being a homer. If this was exact opposite and they called offsides on the Bills, you would be in an uproar about that flinch. True story. That play did not cause the Bills to lose the game. Even if (IF) it was the wrong call it STILL would not have caused them to lose the game. Continuing to be garbage in the redzone, turning the ball over and being generally undisciplined caused them to lose the game. Marrone and Hackett got exactly what they deserved. Edited November 10, 2014 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The reason the Chiefs jumped was the snap count. We earned the first down and they took it away, and the game fell apart. Granted, Bryce Brown's fumble and Chandler's inability to fall on the loose ball did not help. The fumbled punt was the final straw. But the game turned on that nonsensical call. Another bad one was the offensive interference call on Chandler. He barely touched the guy. This is something I was curious about and I'm sure has been explained somewhere but haven't seen it yet. From my understanding, I thought you weren't able to advance the ball on a fumble so if chandler would have recovered it would it have been placed at the 4-5 yardline? Or is that just a kickoff/punt rule that I'm thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 This is something I was curious about and I'm sure has been explained somewhere but haven't seen it yet. From my understanding, I thought you weren't able to advance the ball on a fumble so if chandler would have recovered it would it have been placed at the 4-5 yardline? Or is that just a kickoff/punt rule that I'm thinking of? If a player fumbles on fourth down or inside of the two minute warning in a half, then he and only he can advance the ball. If recovered by another offensive player in those scenarios, the ball is dead at the spot of the fumble. So it would have been a TD if Chandler recovered because it wasn't on 4th down and not after a two minute warning. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 You know, from the GIF, as well as the replays before the GIF starts, he actually moves three separate times. Twice with his leg and once his shoulder. And it was the shoulder, which was the third movement, that causes the Chief to jump. It was a good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty. If you noticed that Henderson flinched im gonna have to call u a fibber..... You had to fricken go back and key in on him with the camera to even see that he moved at all....it was that slight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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