Gary M Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males. Most of which do not qualify to purchase a gun, so remind me again how another law will stop this? When liberals cry "we aren't trying to take your guns" they truly believe it, but the problem is I know that the only way to curb the violence is to outlaw guns, which will only reduce it not stop it. So any "honest" discussion about "common sense laws" is just liberal bull ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Most of which do not qualify to purchase a gun, so remind me again how another law will stop this? When liberals cry "we aren't trying to take your guns" they truly believe it, but the problem is I know that the only way to curb the violence is to outlaw guns, which will only reduce it not stop it. So any "honest" discussion about "common sense laws" is just liberal bull ****. illegal guns are a major problem. I have no problem with responsible gun ownership . If the poor and not gifted for education had access to decent jobs, things would be different imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 illegal guns are a major problem. I have no problem with responsible gun ownership . If the poor and not gifted for education had access to decent jobs, things would be different imo what do you consider a decent job for an uneducated person? (no jokes please, like senator or congressman) and how is the government going to hand it to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) what do you consider a decent job for an uneducated person? (no jokes please, like senator or congressman) and how is the government going to hand it to them? A living wage job that they are capable of , is cheaper then prison and crime During the great depression govt jobs were created for needed projects like infrastructure. My father and uncles were employed by the WPA program then enlisted for WWII Edited October 11, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 A living wage job that they are capable of , is cheaper then prison and crime During the great depression govt jobs were created for needed projects like infrastructure. My father and uncles were employed by the WPA program then enlisted for WWII we aren't in that era anymore, the TVA would be another if you don't put it in FDR make-work projects but those were tough times THIS IS THE MOST BLESSED AND CUSHY TIMES we have experience in Canada and the US and if you can't do a darn useful thing in these useful times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 To the thread title, if I need to shoot someone I'd prefer more guns to no gun. I'm not on a quest to further erode individual liberty in favor of government benevolence. Just citing 2 articles that are of interest to me trying to understand this issue , nothing more. 2013 consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/ Suicide by firearm should be separate from homicides by gun . If they did not have a firearm to commit suicide there are other ways of course. It looks like the problem is disarming urban poor gang related and getting them living wage jobs . This seems to support the theory that less guns wouldn't affect suicide rates. People just use a different method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 ALF, were the poor and middle-class better off getting drafted to go to Vietnam? that gave them some purpose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 A living wage job that they are capable of , is cheaper then prison and crime During the great depression govt jobs were created for needed projects like infrastructure. My father and uncles were employed by the WPA program then enlisted for WWII Man are you going to piss off the unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 So, the U.S. suicide rate is about the same as other developed countries but we have 8 times more suicides with guns. One would think that we are far more advanced due to the following: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=suicide+is+painless+song&view=detail&mid=B2D92407053E545DF369B2D92407053E545DF369&FORM=VIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews. “We were in a room and we came out and he was gone.” This case gets curiouser and curiouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews. “We were in a room and we came out and he was gone.” This case gets curiouser and curiouser. I really hate it when the media needs to making something sound bigger and badder than it already is by qualifying in terms of when it took place 'in modern US history." Can someone tell us the date that represents the beginning of 'modern US history?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I really hate it when the media needs to making something sound bigger and badder than it already is by qualifying in terms of when it took place 'in modern US history." Can someone tell us the date that represents the beginning of 'modern US history?" It began in 1966, at the corner of Derousse Avenue and River Road in Pennsauken, NJ. No one ever told you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 It began in 1966, at the corner of Derousse Avenue and River Road in Pennsauken, NJ. No one ever told you? Tom's (real) Birthday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Tom's (real) Birthday ? it's when someone finally picked him up from the cardboard box he was left in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Tom's (real) Birthday ? No. And I wasn't born. I sprang, fully grown, from the head of Zeus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 No. And I wasn't born. I sprang, fully grown, from the head of Zeus. That must have been one hell of a splitting headache... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 No. And I wasn't born. I sprang, fully grown, from the head of Zeus a dick Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) At least 20 feared dead in ‘mass shooting’ at Texas church http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-reported-at-texas-sutherland-springs-church.html Looks to be a mental health issue............prayers for everyone there. Quote Greg Abbott ✔@GregAbbott_TX Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act. Our thanks to law enforcement for their response. More details from DPS soon. https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/927248847910375424 … 2:11 PM - Nov 5, 2017 Quote Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump May God be w/ the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI & law enforcement are on the scene. I am monitoring the situation from Japan. 3:06 PM - Nov 5, 2017 Edited November 5, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not a Muslim, so we'll be told it's too soon to talk about solutions. And of course gun control and more scrutiny of who should be allowed to own guns can't be on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, PastaJoe said: Not a Muslim, so we'll be told it's too soon to talk about solutions. And of course gun control and more scrutiny of who should be allowed to own guns can't be on the table. Never let a crisis go to waste, eh? People are dead, time to politicize it! Stay classy PJ, stay classy. Edited November 5, 2017 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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