Jonathan Martin

[DrDawkinstein]

40 pages of texts messages between the two have been released showing a long history of BANTER, not bullying.

 

Even more interesting is the continual contact between the two even AFTER Martin left the team...

http://miami.cbsloca...onathan-martin/

 

After Martin left the team near the end of October, Incognito repeatedly texted martin asking him to call him and if he was okay. Martin finally responded to Incognito on November 1, “Wassup man? The world’s gone crazy lol I’m good tho congrats on the win.”

Edited January 31, 2014 by DrDareustein

[Dopey]

you lose credibility when you speak your opinion on something you're only pretty sure about

 

 

Just saying

I mentioned the same thing when someone else made a statement that he was "pretty sure" about something and it was viewed as condescending and deleted. OK, I am 100 % positive I heard it. Do I get some credibility back? I'll feel better. Just saying

[boyst]

I mentioned the same thing when someone else made a statement that he was "pretty sure" about something and it was viewed as condescending and deleted. OK, I am 100 % positive I heard it. Do I get some credibility back? I'll feel better. Just saying

I wasn't picking knits or yarns, wasn't even throwing boulders or pebbles...maybe bam-bam.

 

Just mentioning that if this was one of the more heated threads that some times goes on around here people would really chime in on you mentioning it like you did. I don't take it serious enough to worry about it. There is very little I take serious.

[NoSaint]

yeeeeeesh.... ill admit to giving the guy a bit of the benefit of the doubt early in this chalking it up as "he couldnt be crazy enough to point fingers if he was all in doing it himself" but it looks more and more like i shouldve kept that to myself.

 

whatever actually went on is no good on martins side and hopefully he figures out

[aristocrat]

I wonder if richie has grounds for a defamation suit against martin?

[NoSaint]

I wonder if richie has grounds for a defamation suit against martin?

 

I'd guess no, since Richie seems to have said the things he was accused of.... It seems it would be a tough battle at best.

[KD in CA]

I wonder if richie has grounds for a defamation suit against martin?

 

I think he'll be satisfied with a job in the NFL next season.

 

Besides, it's the media and the NFL that's pushed this bullsh-- 'bully' narrative since day one. Martin was just the convenient patsy.

[Dorkington]

Annnnnnnnd my opinion has changed.

[Malazan]

Where is the he is terrible option?

[JM57]

 

 

I've heard of him.

Just caught this. +1 for good laugh

[ALF]

I think Richie learned his lesson , I would take him back now at LG or Martin at G

[Armchair GM]

No emo fat chicks!

 

Annnnnd the truth comes out...I was right! Martin is exactly as I labeled him. Hopefully the dude gets the help he needs, or just comes out himself and faces the world with his integrity intact.

[Solomon Grundy]

Was he any good in Miami?

[ALF]

Martin was a poor T for Miami, I would use him at either G position.

[tennesseeboy]

I thought it was a mistake to lose Incognito in the first place. We have a habit of dumping very good players (Marshawn Lynch and Incognito) because we can't coach or control them. We should look at the coach and gm who can't control them.

[YoloinOhio]

I thought it was a mistake to lose Incognito in the first place. We have a habit of dumping very good players (Marshawn Lynch and Incognito) because we can't coach or control them. We should look at the coach and gm who can't control them.

Gone now...

[TXBILLSFAN]

Read through most of the texts that were released. It's starting to look like the RI texts were taken out of context and that both players engaged in similar banter back and forth over long period. I don't put much in RI's texts that were sent after JM left. Will be interesting to see what NFL investigation says on Thursday.

[FireChan]

Martin is two faced scum. I hope the media comes crashing down on him like they did on Richie. Incognito might be crass, but I have a few friends that have texted me worse. They'd lose their jobs if I posted them online too.

[YoloinOhio]

I thought Martin was a smart guy? Stanford must not teach anything on how to not be stupid about texting if you are a liar (hello Tiger Woods too).

 

I changed my vote.

[C.Biscuit97]

I honestly don't know what to believe. Maybe the issue is deep with Martin that I thought. Personally, I still would do due diligence as I would with every player if I was a GM. But yeah, he sounds like a mess.