Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I actually thought Edwards was great here..... relative to his successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I assume this means they're taking a run at Jameis Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I have the mind of a cornerback and I just don't remember. What was the Bills defensive talent level when he was DC? I tend to think good players make the coach, but I just don't remember anything about Edwards….good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Apparently Even the NFL offers second chances. In all fairness, in 2010, he may have fielded the least talented and most injury prone defense in the NFL. There wasn't a pass rusher on the roster and other than Kyle the front seven was pathetic. I guess we largely don't know what type of invisible hand wanstedt had in the 2011 collapse down the stretch. The team started off the 2011 season well, even blanking the skins. Minnys d has some talent up front, we shall see what he does with it. But he could certainly explain his way out of how badly he fared in buf and even point to the failure of his successor (possibly still respected in NFL circles) with largely the same cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I have the mind of a cornerback and I just don't remember. What was the Bills defensive talent level when he was DC? I tend to think good players make the coach, but I just don't remember anything about Edwards….good or bad. He was the one who tried to force a 3-4 when we didn't have the personnel. Spencer Johnson and Chris Kelsay to OLB I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 And Wade Phillips can't even get an interview for DC. Must be his haircut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Edwards is a friend of Zimmers, although some of us here think only Marrone hired friends fact is they all do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Edwards is a friend of Zimmers, although some of us here think only Marrone hired friends fact is they all do It's the way the world works. And Wade Phillips can't even get an interview for DC. There is clearly a youth movement afoot in the NFL. The days of recycling the same list of vet coaches and coordinators seems long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Edwards, basically the Bills defensive version of Nate Hackett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Mike Zimmer's first hire. Wow. Maybe he'll just end up being a figure head for Zimmer ala Pettine for Rex? And if so maybe this time he will learn how to properly run a good defensive scheme instead of a defense-sive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Minnesota is quickly following the Bills model of failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Well, our scouts had him with the same grade as Haloti Ngata. PS: McCargo was more productive than Aaron Maybin in terms of tackles. http://www.pro-footb.../M/McCaJo22.htm http://www.pro-footb.../M/MaybAa99.htm http://www.pro-footb.../T/TrouTo00.htm I didn't need to do any research to know they were both absolutely horrendous picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Ha ha, good luck with that. Wow, Ridiculous Hires this offseason by far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 What is up with these coaching hires? Don't these teams do *any* research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Superbowl! Although, given our D went from poor to mind-numbingly, record-settingly bad after he left despite a number of positive acquisitions, I do wonder if he did more than we realized at the time, with less than Wannstache had to work with He was better then wannstadt He was indeed. That's sort of like saying meatloaf is better than moldy, slimy green fuzz covered balogna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Superbowl! Although, given our D went from poor to mind-numbingly, record-settingly bad after he left despite a number of positive acquisitions, I do wonder if he did more than we realized at the time, with less than Wannstache had to work with He was indeed. That's sort of like saying meatloaf is better than moldy, slimy green fuzz covered balogna at least bologna has character and substance to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well, he did use his "phone a friend" option when he called Wade Phillips about 7 games into his first season so as to figure out how to get his 3-4 off the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Its too bad.. Edwards only had one season in Buffalo before Chan canned him. Maybe he would have turned things around. And with Chan being the offensive genius that he is.. could the Bills have made a run?? No need to reiterate how bad Wanny was. Edited January 17, 2014 by ldandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 McCargo wasn't worth a first round pick, but he was a decent player who was injured and then fell out of favor during the coaching carousel. George Edwards tried to run a 3-4 without the right skill set. I don't think the 3-4 was his idea. I think Gailey thought it would be better, based on what I don't know. In any event, he'll probably work out OK for MIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I have the mind of a cornerback and I just don't remember. What was the Bills defensive talent level when he was DC? I tend to think good players make the coach, but I just don't remember anything about Edwards….good or bad. Agreed. I think that there are an elite few coaches who might be able to win with lesser talented players, but for the majority of coaches the results depend largely on the talent level they have to work with. Edited January 17, 2014 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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