YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Posted in the TJ Graham thread because there was discussion of Marquise in there as well but thought it should be in his thread as well. So excited about this kid... hope he can stay healthy!!! http://www.rantsport...rquise-goodwin/ There’s fast, there’s really fast and then there’s Marquise Goodwin. Marquise Goodwin is the fastest player in today’s NFL, and he’s probably the fastest player the league has seen since Bob Hayes. Goodwin finished in 10th place at the London Olympics in the long jump and led all rookies at this year’s combine with a 4.27 second 40-yard dash. Goodwin had a 43-yard touchdown this past Sunday against the New York Jets which marked the third time in seven games this season that he has had a touchdown of 40 yards or longer. The Bills’ rookie receiver is a true deep threat — think Mike Wallace in his Pittsburgh Steelers days — who can score from anywhere on the field at any given moment, and he’s now been on the field for at least 30 snaps in each of his last four games, including 60-of-69 snaps this past weekend. Goodwin runs a very basic route tree, but his speed is such a threat that he almost always finds himself open on underneath routes because defenders are so conscious of not getting beat deep. And when he does go deep he’s often so much faster than his defender that it doesn’t matter if they know where he’s going or not. When Goodwin caught his 43-yard touchdown this past weekend he was lined up on the right side right at the Jets 45-yard line with Antonio Cromartie about three yards off of him in one-on-one man coverage. Cromartie correctly anticipated that Goodwin was running deep and he turned to run down the field a split second before the ball was even snapped. EJ Manuel took a three-step drop and immediately threw the ball deep to Goodwin who caught it at the five-yard line and stepped into the end zone as Cromartie hopelessly dove at his heels. Goodwin was so fast that he basically gave Cromartie a five-yard head start to run 45 yards down the field and by the time Goodwin had made it to the five-yard line he had distanced himself from Cromartie (who ran a 4.47 40-yard dash back at his combine) by about two yards. Goodwin should receive plenty of playing time as long as Stevie Johnson and Robert Woods are out with injuries, and his speed is such a game changer that he should have a meaningful role in Buffalo’s offense moving forward regardless. I think that Goodwin is a must own in any league that is 14 teams or deeper, and he is also a must own in all keeper/dynasty formats. Savvy owners in 10-12 team leagues may also want to consider rostering Goodwin as the Bills come out of their Week 12 bye; it would not surprise me if Goodwin is a top 30 receiver going forward, and I would rather have him at this point over Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith, Cecil Shorts, Stevie Johnson, Tavon Austin, Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe and Greg Jenning Read more at http://www.rantsport...WufOG4DG0Pls.99 Edited November 20, 2013 by YoloInTheBlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 We are seeing an evolving Playmaker Extraordinaire. A "Home Run" 3rd Round Pick Doug Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 If he continues to make catches on "normal" routes, as well as long go routes, he could turn out to be the steal of the draft for us, offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm happy we got the highly touted Manuel and Woods. But guys like Alonso, Goodwin and Robey really take it to another level for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 When Goodwin caught his 43-yard touchdown this past weekend he was lined up on the right side right at the Jets 45-yard line with Antonio Cromartie about three yards off of him in one-on-one man coverage. Cromartie correctly anticipated that Goodwin was running deep and he turned to run down the field a split second before the ball was even snapped. EJ Manuel took a three-step drop and immediately threw the ball deep to Goodwin who caught it at the five-yard line and stepped into the end zone as Cromartie hopelessly dove at his heels. Goodwin was so fast that he basically gave Cromartie a five-yard head start to run 45 yards down the field and by the time Goodwin had made it to the five-yard line he had distanced himself from Cromartie (who ran a 4.47 40-yard dash back at his combine) by about two yards. This isn't exactly true. Cromartie didn't start running towards the goal line full speed and get passed by Goodwin. All of Goodwin's underneath stuff prior to this opened up the route. Cromartie starts running back pre-snap and after about 10 yards slows down anticipating a curl or a hook and which point Goodwin makes a slight move to the inside and turns on the burners. Cromartie has no chance to catch up. Nonetheless it takes nothing away from Goodwin's speed. Cromartie tried to cheat and stop the short route and got burned. If he plays the deep route the entire way he opens up the short stuff. Without safety help over the top the DB has to make a choice. With safety help over the top it opens up things for the other WRs. Goodwin's the kind of guy that will make the entire offense better just because of his speed. The one thing I'm interested in is how he'll do once guys start jamming him at the line - because it's going to happen. If he can make them pay for it they'll back off but if he has trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The touchdown bombs are awesome of course, but I thought it was at least as impressive that he was good at getting open and making catches for first downs in that Jets game -- without any other established WRs out there on the field with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm happy we got the highly touted Manuel and Woods. But guys like Alonso, Goodwin and Robey really take it to another level for me. couldnt agree more. If EJ and Woods turn out and keep progressing (no reason not to think that), the pick ups of Alonso, Goodwin, and Robey along with that really give us an opportunity of having our best draft ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 you do realize that more than one route can be run from the slot. why wouldn't you use Goodwin in the slot? why the **** not Fast out side, quick inside. Also if it's me I don't want ILBs dropping in coverage and lighting up my short 180 lb WR from the slot across the middle. Much rather my quick 6'2" 210 lb WR fights that battle. Hogan is the second best slot option. Woods runs the intermediate routes from outside faster and better than anyone else on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Can we please keep in mind here that Goodwin while as explosive as they come does NOT have the size to take consistant NFL hits? If we want to keep him healthy....do not put him in a position to get creamed by linebackers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 And Goodwin is a stud. He plays way bigger than his size. His hands and toughness have really impressed me. He also has shown he can play on the outside, which is something smaller guys struggle to do. I don't think "smaller" wr's necessarily struggle to play outside at all. There have been guys 6' and under who play well. Steve Smith the most recent example. Mark Duper and Mark Clayton didn't have problems. Gary Clark, who used to play for the Skins didn't have issues. Remember SB 26? Cliff Branch, Lynn Swann, Wesley Walker, there's a lot of them in NFL history. It's about technique and toughness getting off the line. There are many 6' and over WR's who struggle to play outside too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Fast out side, quick inside. Also if it's me I don't want ILBs dropping in coverage and lighting up my short 180 lb WR from the slot across the middle. Much rather my quick 6'2" 210 lb WR fights that battle. Hogan is the second best slot option. Woods runs the intermediate routes from outside faster and better than anyone else on the roster. Don't run him over the middle then... Like I said any route can be run from the slot. It's not just slants and crossing patterns. also what LB can stick with him in coverage? Can we please keep in mind here that Goodwin while as explosive as they come does NOT have the size to take consistant NFL hits? If we want to keep him healthy....do not put him in a position to get creamed by linebackers...... So no more slants or curls... This is the nfl you put your players in a position to succeed. Corners won't press him because they are scared of his speed. What would a linebacker do besides stand there like oh **** Edited November 20, 2013 by kr632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Another Option no one has mentioned, is once he is healthy, lining up Spiller into the slot. How do you cover a 4 wide set with Woods, Spiller, and Goodwin & SJ13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I am not typically one to spin a positive into a negative, but is kind of ticks me off that MG doesn't have a KR for a TD yet in the reg season. Our blocking on ST sucks. McK too - he was one of the best PR in the league last yr. He didn't forget how to do it. He had the one that called back but it was pretty obvious that the penalty was a huge assist. Just something that really should be better as these guys could really be game changers on returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Other than the injury at the beginning of the year, there's been nothing to show he can't take hits in the NFL... especially consider he returns kickoffs (though not many), I think it's a bit quick to insinuate that he's injury prone. So far the only WR on this team that's legitimately injury prone is SJ, and he generally plays through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Agreed. Besides QB, this is probably the biggest position we have neglected. How many times have the Bills drafted a TE in the first 3 rounds. I only remember Kevin Everett. It seems every really good offense has a good TE who is a matchup nightmare and some teams even have 2. I'd love a 1st/ 2nd round TE and Chandler. ..... To sate your curiosity.... 2005 Rd3 Kevin Everett 1994 Rd2 Lonnie Johnson 1983 Rd1 Tony Hunter 1980 Rd3 Mark Brammer 1974 Rd1 Reuben Gant 1973 Rd1 Paul Seymour 1971 Rd2 Jan White 1967 Rd2 Jim LeMoine Looks like we are due for a high pick TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I just clocked the replay four or 5 times, and from the time Wood snaps the ball to the time Goodwin crosses the goal line I'm getting right at 4.9 seconds, into the wind in full football gear. 45 yards, That translates to a 4.35 40 in pads. I wonder if anyone else in the league is that fast in pads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The touchdown bombs are awesome of course, but I thought it was at least as impressive that he was good at getting open and making catches for first downs in that Jets game -- without any other established WRs out there on the field with him. GREAT point made here. The best thing he can do to be a deep threat is to be that much more in the short and intermediate game. I honestly don't think there's a DB that can stay with him out of press coverage. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Make him our number 1 receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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