Just Jack Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 But what teams are in need of a safety at this point in the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I would be happy for a 5th, ecstatic for a 4th. Â Seriously, is there really any doubt about trading him for whatever we can get vs keeping him for 9 more games and having him leave for nothing? Â I would franchise him again, let Parker know that the price is a 2nd and then he can negotiate with another team. Taking a 4th or 5th this season would be an awful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 That's because Robey couldn't put his hands together on a sure pick  That's because Robey couldn't put his hands together on a sure pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The compensation Buffalo would get for Byrd leaving would be at least a 4th. They should be getting a 4th in 2014 draft because of Levitre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The compensation Buffalo would get for Byrd leaving would be at least a 4th. They should be getting a 4th in 2014 draft because of Levitre. Â The Bills signed some FAs so that Levitre pick will be lower than a 4th IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Byrd is the best safety in the league. I think he deserves a big contract. He does so much for us. We were able to hold Brees to only 5 TD's today. Our secondary is amazing and Gilmore has beautiful hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Bronson Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Only Bills fans. Too many general managers on TBD. Shouldn't you guys be in Orchard Park handling business. Byrd if not for his boneheaded decision this off season would be considered the second best player on this team. IMO still is, teams are reluctant to throw over the middle, and that's because of Byrd look at his monster hit last week. Jimmy Graham is a different beast. If we can retain him after the season, better for us! Pay your good players and stop Bs'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013   You knew what I meant, Smarty Pants.  Soo... draft picks and stuff. A sixth and seventh would do?  Actually no I didn't  I would rather keep him then trade him for low picks  I wouldn't expect a first or even a second but would take a third maybe conditional    I would be happy for a 5th, ecstatic for a 4th.  Seriously, is there really any doubt about trading him for whatever we can get vs keeping him for 9 more games and having him leave for nothing?  Why do u assume he is leaving for nothing? Bills can still franchise him again  But what teams are in need of a safety at this point in the season?  The better question is what team is willing to trade for a safety and disrupt their team at this point?  I don't see Byrd being traded at this pojnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oman128 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 you know if we trade um he's going to play really well for whatever team ee trade him too. Â Then everyone is going to B word about what picks we got for him. Â you know if we trade um he's going to play really well for whatever team ee trade him too. Â Then everyone is going to B word about what picks we got for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 While I don't exactly agree with the OP's reasoning, he may get his wish. The deadline is Tuesday, and I expect the rumor mill will be roaring in short order. Â I doubt it makes a difference whether he's here or not. The one noticeable thing is, ever since Byrd came back in the lineup, our run defense has been horrid... Before he came in the lineup teams for some reason, couldn't run on us. I don't know what that has to do with Byrd but I'm just saying that that's what I've noticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm sorry but isn't a "franchise" player supposed to make a difference? 5 TD's say he didn't. Â This is the equivalent to the "we can finish last without him" approach to player evaluation that keeps bad teams bad. Â If this team had been moderately more aggressive last offseason they would be 6-2. This season is in the tank, but if they expect to improve next season then keeping players like Byrd is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The irrationality of some Bills fan is beyond comical. Edited October 28, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 This is the equivalent to the "we can finish last without him" approach to player evaluation that keeps bad teams bad. Â If this team had been moderately more aggressive last offseason they would be 6-2. This season is in the tank, but if they expect to improve next season then keeping players like Byrd is important. Thats funny and your argument is fact less to say they "would be 6-2" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013   What if we could tag him and trade him for more on draft day?  Or let him walk and potentially get a 4 as a compensatory pick?  I guess either would be fine with me, assuming the NFL gave us a 4th (or better). The Texans won a 3rd rounder for losing Williams. However, supposedly comp picks are based on salary, playing time, and post-season accolades (and other players signed/lost). If it's based on the previous season only, it looks like we won't get much for Byrd.  Why do u assume he is leaving for nothing? Bills can still franchise him again  I'm assuming it would be cost prohibitive to franchise him again (120% this years salary = $9.5 million). And based on his production this year, this assumption may be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited)   The Bills signed some FAs so that Levitre pick will be lower than a 4th IMO.  The number signed effects eligibility for a pick not the level of it.    I guess either would be fine with me, assuming the NFL gave us a 4th (or better). The Texans won a 3rd rounder for losing Williams. However, supposedly comp picks are based on salary, playing time, and post-season accolades (and other players signed/lost). If it's based on the previous season only, it looks like we won't get much for Byrd.  I'm assuming it would be cost prohibitive to franchise him again (120% this years salary = $9.5 million). And based on his production this year, this assumption may be correct. It's essentially 100% average annual salary on the new deal they sign. If a team gave him 7-8m we'd get a 3-4, as long as we lose more than we sign.  The rest is just noise around it- guys predict with essentially 100% accuracy months before the nfl announces it   To next years tag it's low/mid 8s Edited October 28, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 The question was trade him for what  And I would imagine the trading team would be able to franchise him if they were not able to sign him so it wouldn't absolutely be a 9 week rental  'cuz that franchise tag worked out so smoothly for Byrd and the Bills this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) keep Byrd. so we trade him--create a hole at safety so we can draft a safety that has a 30-40% chance of success in the league after a couple yrs?? dumb.- Edited October 28, 2013 by Tcali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I dont think any team is going to be eager to trade for Byrd since they cant sign him to a long term contract until after the season and they know they have to deal with Eugene Parker just like the Bills have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 If Byrd wants a large signing bonus, I would just let him walk or limp away and take the compensatory pick. His PF is just too unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 If Byrd wants a large signing bonus, I would just let him walk or limp away and take the compensatory pick. His PF is just too unpredictable. So Jimmy Graham has a partially torn plantar fascia and plays like a stud...Byrd has PF (not partially torn from what we know) and missed 5 games until he was 100%. The guy has zero heart. Take what you can get and let him be a selfish prick on some other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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