finhater Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I would be in favor of this. The WR talent in the draft is pretty good. But I love Cruz and his salsa dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . Give up top 10 pick for a WR that will demand a huge contract, smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Give up top 10 pick for a WR that will demand a huge contract, smart. Cruz wouldnt be the worst move however. Hes a good young star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finhater Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 he will be 27 this november and has back to back 80+ catch seasons and lets say it was 5 years and 36 million . i mean we paid t.o 6.5 million for a season and he was over the hill but did put people in the seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 If we're use our 8th on a WR Id rather save the money and draft Patterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 he will be 27 this november and has back to back 80+ catch seasons and lets say it was 5 years and 36 million . i mean we paid t.o 6.5 million for a season and he was over the hill but did put people in the seats Giants would match that. You'd have to overpay him severely to get a deal done. That along with the first rounder makes me say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 If we're use our 8th on a WR Id rather save the money and draft Patterson. Patterson is far from a sure thing. Quite a gamble at the 8th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Patterson is far from a sure thing. Quite a gamble at the 8th pick. Cruz in buffalo isn't a sure thing and he costs a ton more. Bye bye cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfans126 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Giants would match that. You'd have to overpay him severely to get a deal done. That along with the first rounder makes me say no. Giants are about 4 million under the cap. They wouldn't be able to pay what the bills could pay if they wanted him. Need a qb who can get him the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Cruz in buffalo isn't a sure thing and he costs a ton more. Bye bye cap space. Exactly. For who's likely to be behind Center this upcoming year, I'll take the cheap route. At least that way they can use the cap space and try to fill some Defensive holes and make us worth watching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 if we picked in the 20's it would be tempting . At 8 they should /hope to get a cornerstone player thining about wonder if the rams do it they have two picks and a huge need , maybe texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . I think this would be a terrible Idea and it's not because Cruz is not a good player -- he is. The ley is that Cruz has had other good quality receiers on his team and a QB who could get him the ball. In addition, Cruz won't move the needle enough for the Bills and put them in contention. We need more. I'd rather spend that money on Bowe and still have a 1st round choice to fill another need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No way........this guy is a me first guy like stevie..........his celebrations with the salsa dance are so immature.........this guy is a cancer just like stevie. We need a clean cut guy who never celebrates ya see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . I could be mistaken but it seems to me there are some FA WR available who would sign for similar salaries and not require the sacrifice of a 1st round pick in addition. Greg Jennings would be my top choice, though he has been injured the last two seasons. Bowe and Amendola are also interesting if they're available (they are FA but it's widely believed their teams will be aggressive to retain them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Cruz mainly plays out of the slot as well which is where the Bills intend to play Stevie next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 is he looking for fitzgerald or johnson money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Give up top 10 pick for a WR that will demand a huge contract, smart. well, giving a top ten pick for a young guy, who has developed into legit #1 WR, with no off field issues, is a much worse idea than drafting no sure thing, with a pick that people don't think their is a deserving player to use the 8th pick on. I'd be ok with it. I remember watching his first game against the Jets. He was incredible. Cruz mainly plays out of the slot as well which is where the Bills intend to play Stevie next year I thought Cruz was their #1 WR. I think they like to move him to get match ups. I could be mistaken but it seems to me there are some FA WR available who would sign for similar salaries and not require the sacrifice of a 1st round pick in addition. Greg Jennings would be my top choice, though he has been injured the last two seasons. Bowe and Amendola are also interesting if they're available (they are FA but it's widely believed their teams will be aggressive to retain them) I would go with 20 something on the way up Cruz, over a 30 something on the decline Jennings. We pick up Cruz, WR is set for years. Pick up Jennings, and were looking at WR next year still. I'd take bowe though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I would do this if they really think their QB will be there in round 2 (and likely not in Round 1). They're not ideally positioned to do so (guess who is? SF). But they could do it and it might be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProbablyWrong Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Trade back with 49ers, then we give up the 31st pick instead of the 8th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 he will be 27 this november and has back to back 80+ catch seasons and lets say it was 5 years and 36 million . i mean we paid t.o 6.5 million for a season and he was over the hill but did put people in the seats He also has a QB who can get the ball to him while he is running....not in the dirt or behind him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 the giants actually had a real QB throwing to him - he would fail with the trash we have/will have in Buffalo for the immediate future - dont waste the pick/money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . I would be in favor, but I don't think you will see him playing anywhere but with the Giants this year. Besides, until we get a QB that can throw the ball downfield, what it would cost him would be a disappointment at the end of the year when you see his stats. He also has a QB who can get the ball to him while he is running....not in the dirt or behind him... No kidding. Imagine if Ralph WIlson Stadium has real grass, there would be bald spots all over the field from his short throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 With all the WR talent that is coming out this year NO it would be a better move & a lot more cost effective to get a rookie WR that will be here for the next 4 or 5 years. We are getting younger all over on this team draft a C. Patterson, J. Hunter , or Q. Patton & we will have our own version of Cruz but at less than half the price !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 With all the WR talent that is coming out this year NO it would be a better move & a lot more cost effective to get a rookie WR that will be here for the next 4 or 5 years. We are getting younger all over on this team draft a C. Patterson, J. Hunter , or Q. Patton & we will have our own version of Cruz but at less than half the price !! You hope. It is the draft, you really never know what you are getting-remember James Hardy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 the giants actually had a real QB throwing to him - he would fail with the trash we have/will have in Buffalo for the immediate future - dont waste the pick/money Yes, but OTOH Eli's game really went to the next level once Cruz was brought on. Food for thought. I don't think he is going to make Fitz good (we've seen his ceiling) but he could benefit most QBs that we bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 he will be 27 this november and has back to back 80+ catch seasons and lets say it was 5 years and 36 million . i mean we paid t.o 6.5 million for a season and he was over the hill but did put people in the seats He also has Hakeem Nicks and Eli throwing him the ball. If I am not mistaken his production slipped greatly when Nix was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 If we're use our 8th on a WR Id rather save the money and draft Patterson. Just asking, why would you draft a kid with one year exp. vs trading the same pick for a guy that is established, only 27 and has proven he can play at a probowl type level in this league? At some point it has to stop being about the money and we need to start winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 the giants actually had a real QB throwing to him - he would fail with the trash we have/will have in Buffalo for the immediate future - dont waste the pick/money I don't think nix, and Eli made Cruz. Cruz showed he belongs on an NFL field the first time he played. And it was without Eli, and nix. I belive Cruz made the giants better. I've been a Cruz fan since he scored three touch downs, in three receptions, against the jets. All over 20 yards. He is a good size reciver, with speed, catches with his hands at the high point. With this year's draft class, give up #8 and get a guy you KNOW makes your team better. Second and third rounds get defenders, and keep an eye out for first round QB's next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 How's that work anyway, if a team signs a franchised player, do they lose the draft pick this coming Aprils draft or would it be for in the 2014 draft?? Just as compensitory picks are a year behind. Give up top 10 pick for a WR that will demand a huge contract, smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The crazy numbers slot receivers are currently putting up is a relatively new phenomenon in the NFL. In my opinion, players like Welker, Amendola and Cruz are not worth anywhere near the money they are going to be asking for. Statistically speaking, Cruz may be the number one receiver on the Giants. But the real difference maker is Hakeem Nicks. He draws the double coverage downfield, while Cruz takes advantage of mismatches (against linebackers and safeties) underneath. We would be better off spending big money on a top outside receiver - maybe Greg Jennings or Dwayne Bowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think this would be a terrible Idea and it's not because Cruz is not a good player -- he is. The ley is that Cruz has had other good quality receiers on his team and a QB who could get him the ball. In addition, Cruz won't move the needle enough for the Bills and put them in contention. We need more. I'd rather spend that money on Bowe and still have a 1st round choice to fill another need. I would use the pick on Cruz. He's better than Bowe. The Bills have cap room. If they aren't taking a QB at 8, what other need will the Bills pick that would "move the needle" as much as Cruz?? Another rookie CB? A LB? Some here have even suggested...O-lineman?? (WTF?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 seeing the giants are gonna tag him with a first round tag . would you give up a first round pick to sign him ? i think he is worth the pick seeing we dont know what were gonna get as far as the wr talent in this draft . I like Cruz, but keep in mind this would be a top 10 pick PLUS signing him to a huge contract, AND the Giants would have the right to match it. Considering the huge problem Cruz had with drops last year, I'd rather they roll the dice on a guy like Patterson instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The crazy numbers slot receivers are currently putting up is a relatively new phenomenon in the NFL. In my opinion, players like Welker, Amendola and Cruz are not worth anywhere near the money they are going to be asking for. Statistically speaking, Cruz may be the number one receiver on the Giants. But the real difference maker is Hakeem Nicks. He draws the double coverage downfield, while Cruz takes advantage of mismatches (against linebackers and safeties) underneath. We would be better off spending big money on a top outside receiver - maybe Greg Jennings or Dwayne Bowe. Yup. Basically since you're not allowed to hit anymore, receivers can cross the middle without worrying about getting blasted. So IMO, it's really hard to put a value on their worth. But since teams play 3 and 4 wrs set all the time, maybe they are worth big money. And I really like Cruz but Manning blows up slot receivers. See Steve Smith when he was with the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I would be in favor of this. The WR talent in the draft is pretty good. But I love Cruz and his salsa dance This WR class is WEAK. You serious? Sorry, there's not 1 QB or WR i'd want on this team in this draft. When it comes to WR, QB, RB, MLB, and CBs this class is whack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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