1billsfan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 ...of men. I checked out all of the QB press conferences and I'm beyond impressed with how both Manuel and Wilson come across. They aren't fake or coached up. They are both seem very mature beyond their years. The difference between these two guys and the other QBs with regards to their maturity levels and leadership qualities is a substantially large gap after watching all of the videos. As for Nassib, he seems like a very likable and personable guy who will put in the work and do his very best. But I don't necessarily see that natural leader type, nor do I see a guy who actually believes that he's the best of this group. One note, Wilson had a very interesting smile on his face when talking about his meeting with the Bills. You can check out all of the videos them here... http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/EJ-Manuel-Combine-Press-Conference/6ca249da-b855-4cc0-ae81-0c999a80dd5e#/media-center/videos/EJ_Manuel_Combine_Press_Conference/6ca249da-b855-4cc0-ae81-0c999a80dd5e Can't wait to see them all tomorrow at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Do you see the same leadership qualities when you watch a Brady interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I saw the title and knew who started this thread. We get....you love EJ Manuel. I like him too, but geez, you're nonstop about this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 EJ Manuel checks down a ton. Makes Trent look like Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Tyler Wilson would be a great option, Manuel? Not so much. Edited February 24, 2013 by DStebb716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Im ok with Tyler ... in round two. If they do not get a WR in FA and if they lose Levite then it will be a tough choice - Patterson or Warmack at #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 EJ Manuel checks down a ton. Makes Trent look like Peyton Manning. Yes, but is that an indication of EJ Manuel's shortcomings as a QB, or more a reflection of how Jimbo Fisher likes to run his offense? I have heard folks make arguments about the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm with you, I really like EJ Manuel as well...I definitely think he is one of the top 3 QB's in the draft and he is almost going completely unnoticed. He might not have had the best numbers of all the QB's coming out but he's cool, calm and collective under pressure in the games that I have seen for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Lets hope one of them last until the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) I'm with you, I really like EJ Manuel as well...I definitely think he is one of the top 3 QB's in the draft and he is almost going completely unnoticed. He might not have had the best numbers of all the QB's coming out but he's cool, calm and collective under pressure in the games that I have seen for him. Is that to say he's one of a group of many tranquil people under pressure, you know, for all intensive purposes? Edited February 24, 2013 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Can we please create an archive of all the "QBs-we-must-draft" threads? I'd love to go back and see was right and who was talking out their blowholes. I don't know why but we never see any "I-wanted-Clausen/McCoy/Leinert/etc-but-I-was-wrong" threads. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 If he's any relation to the late great, singer, keyboard player Richard Manuel (the Band) Get er done, Doug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 If he's any relation to the late great, singer, keyboard player Richard Manuel (the Band) Get er done, Doug! You're thinking of Owners Manuel. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yes, but is that an indication of EJ Manuel's shortcomings as a QB, or more a reflection of how Jimbo Fisher likes to run his offense? I have heard folks make arguments about the latter. No idea what it could be an indication of but it is something that I've noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkash Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 As a Florida State fan and alum, I love EJ. Cuz he's my boy. Great guy. PLease don't draft him, please don't draft hime, PLEASE DON'T DRAFT HIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I think Geno Smith has carried himself well thus far. No idea if he's a fit, but starting to like the intangibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Food_Pyramid_Wrong Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Is that to say he's one of a group of many tranquil people under pressure, you know, for all intensive purposes? The phrase originated in legal language in the 1500s, and it may have been first used in court cases in England. The initial wording may have been "to all intents, constructions and purposes." Some point out that pluralizing "intent" is unnecessary since the word can be singular or plural without an "s" at the end, such as "his intent" or "their intent." In the modern sense, this phrase could be used in the following example. A person is interviewing for a job, and the boss wants to hire him. She might say, "We still need to check your references, but for all intents and purposes, the job is yours." Provided the applicants references are fine, he has landed the job and, under practical considerations, he can consider himself employed. Unfortunately, the phrase has gotten a little more complicated because of the numerous misquotes or malapropisms that are used in its place. One common substitution is "for all intensive purposes." This is very commonly used, and it means something almost directly opposite to the original phrase’s meaning of "for practical purposes." If the person who was just about hired for a job "for all intensive purposes," one could argue that that person had just been hired for work in an emergency room or an intensive care unit. The person could only be considering the prospect of a job under intensive or highly intense situations. Now, this is probably not what the speaker means, but it deliberately corrupts the meaning of the original phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 We could argue about these guys till we're blue in the fingers. As we've observed for many years as fans of this game, ya just never know who's gonna be good and who's gonna be a bust. Last year was a pretty rare year where Luck and RGIII were pretty sure things. Its pretty much a crap shoot at the QB position this year. I'll let you guys know who I like next December !! LOL ! jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Manuel getting love from NFL Network guys like Kurt warner. Figure he has lifted himself at least into second round. You're thinking of Owners Manuel. PTR No, he's thinking of Richard Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The phrase originated in legal language in the 1500s, and it may have been first used in court cases in England. The initial wording may have been "to all intents, constructions and purposes." Some point out that pluralizing "intent" is unnecessary since the word can be singular or plural without an "s" at the end, such as "his intent" or "their intent." In the modern sense, this phrase could be used in the following example. A person is interviewing for a job, and the boss wants to hire him. She might say, "We still need to check your references, but for all intents and purposes, the job is yours." Provided the applicants references are fine, he has landed the job and, under practical considerations, he can consider himself employed. Unfortunately, the phrase has gotten a little more complicated because of the numerous misquotes or malapropisms that are used in its place. One common substitution is "for all intensive purposes." This is very commonly used, and it means something almost directly opposite to the original phrase’s meaning of "for practical purposes." If the person who was just about hired for a job "for all intensive purposes," one could argue that that person had just been hired for work in an emergency room or an intensive care unit. The person could only be considering the prospect of a job under intensive or highly intense situations. Now, this is probably not what the speaker means, but it deliberately corrupts the meaning of the original phrase. Are you the guy that kills the punchline by making the teller explain the joke? (I'm on my iPad, otherwise I'd finish this with the little winking emoticon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The phrase originated in legal language in the 1500s, and it may have been first used in court cases in England. The initial wording may have been "to all intents, constructions and purposes." Some point out that pluralizing "intent" is unnecessary since the word can be singular or plural without an "s" at the end, such as "his intent" or "their intent." In the modern sense, this phrase could be used in the following example. A person is interviewing for a job, and the boss wants to hire him. She might say, "We still need to check your references, but for all intents and purposes, the job is yours." Provided the applicants references are fine, he has landed the job and, under practical considerations, he can consider himself employed. Unfortunately, the phrase has gotten a little more complicated because of the numerous misquotes or malapropisms that are used in its place. One common substitution is "for all intensive purposes." This is very commonly used, and it means something almost directly opposite to the original phrase’s meaning of "for practical purposes." If the person who was just about hired for a job "for all intensive purposes," one could argue that that person had just been hired for work in an emergency room or an intensive care unit. The person could only be considering the prospect of a job under intensive or highly intense situations. Now, this is probably not what the speaker means, but it deliberately corrupts the meaning of the original phrase. Cool, calm and collective? What's he on a farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Manuel getting love from NFL Network guys like Kurt warner. Figure he has lifted himself at least into second round. No, he's thinking of Richard Manuel. Richard Manuel, wasn't he the ruthless leader of Panama from 1983-1989? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Is that to say he's one of a group of many tranquil people under pressure, you know, for all intensive purposes? I'm on tender hooks waiting to see if we draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm on tender hooks waiting to see if we draft him. If we do, we'll be getting the whole kitten caboodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flutie5 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 E.J Manuel is not a natural born leader. Trust me i'm a Seminole fan who is also a bills fan. E.J doesn't have the skills to make it in the pros. He makes poor decisions when he behind the pocket. Just watch the sooners, seminoles game, he looked awful before trickett came in to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 ...of men. I checked out all of the QB press conferences and I'm beyond impressed with how both Manuel and Wilson come across. They aren't fake or coached up. They are both seem very mature beyond their years. The difference between these two guys and the other QBs with regards to their maturity levels and leadership qualities is a substantially large gap after watching all of the videos. As for Nassib, he seems like a very likable and personable guy who will put in the work and do his very best. But I don't necessarily see that natural leader type, nor do I see a guy who actually believes that he's the best of this group. One note, Wilson had a very interesting smile on his face when talking about his meeting with the Bills. You can check out all of the videos them here... http://www.kcchiefs....81-0c999a80dd5e Can't wait to see them all tomorrow at the combine. You can tell all that from an interview with the media? I am not trashing EJ Manuel or any of the other QBs, it is just that I don't know how you can tell anything about any of these player's leadership skills from those media interviews. At best, in my opinion, you can tell whether a guy is reasonably well-spoken and how comfortable they might be in the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I think we'll end up taking Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yes, but is that an indication of EJ Manuel's shortcomings as a QB, or more a reflection of how Jimbo Fisher likes to run his offense? I have heard folks make arguments about the latter. Or the lack of talent on offense? As a Florida State fan and alum, I love EJ. Cuz he's my boy. Great guy. PLease don't draft him, please don't draft hime, PLEASE DON'T DRAFT HIM. Why not? E.J Manuel is not a natural born leader. Trust me i'm a Seminole fan who is also a bills fan. E.J doesn't have the skills to make it in the pros. He makes poor decisions when he behind the pocket. Just watch the sooners, seminoles game, he looked awful before trickett came in to replace him. The Sooners game in 2011? They were ranked #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Can we please create an archive of all the "QBs-we-must-draft" threads? I'd love to go back and see was right and who was talking out their blowholes. I don't know why but we never see any "I-wanted-Clausen/McCoy/Leinert/etc-but-I-was-wrong" threads. PTR Love the idea. I remember a bunch of folks (or a few multi-posting folks) banging the drum for Dan Leferve (sp) a few years ago. I'll get started, I was all against drafting Cam Newton. I guess I was wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 If we do, we'll be getting the whole kitten caboodle. In one foul swoop we could be fixing the QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Manuel yes. Wilson no. Manuel big arm with wheels . Manuel 6-4 and 5/8s 237 lean . 40-4.62 Wilson 6-2 1/8s . He had a belly at 215. best 40 4.96. Manuel 10 3/8 hand. Wilson tiny burger king hand 8 3/4. Fumbles ? Manuel and Tyler Bray are growing on me after seeing them at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'nCrunch Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Chip Kelly said he recruited Manuel but he went to Fla. State and it seemed Kelly still had an avid interest in Manuel, though this time as a draftee. If his interest was real, just wondering how high Philly might be willing to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Is that to say he's one of a group of many tranquil people under pressure, you know, for all intensive purposes? what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Can we please create an archive of all the "QBs-we-must-draft" threads? I'd love to go back and see was right and who was talking out their blowholes. I don't know why but we never see any "I-wanted-Clausen/McCoy/Leinert/etc-but-I-was-wrong" threads. PTR I wanted Clausen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 what? Just answer the question, Sergeant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Just answer the question, Sergeant. I have no clue what he's asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have no clue what he's asking Me neither. Sounds like some real blackcops stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Me neither. Sounds like some real blackcops stuff though. lmao somethin like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 If we do, we'll be getting the whole kitten caboodle. In one foul swoop we could be fixing the QB situation. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes they're should be a QB worth drafting in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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