D521646 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have seen ina few threads where people have mentioned it, and I went over to the Browns site and not a peep, so I ask? Why not? I thought it was a classy move by Chan and the Bills to do that when they could have easily moved in to give Choice or White a TD for their efforts? If anything, I think this is why Chan is respected in this league, NOT because of his track record in W's, but because he's a class guy. How many coaches would've taken the knee on the one yard line with just under two minutes to play? Kudo's to Chan, although as a fan I was hoping that they ran it in.. Just me I guess. Thoughts? Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 i think many take that knee. you dont give the ball back in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah, it was classy. But if we end up losing the points differential tie-breaker and lose out on the playoffs, I'm gonna be pissed. I wonder if Greg Schiano would have blitzed our kneel-down in that same situation. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah, it was classy. But if we end up losing the points differential tie-breaker and lose out on the playoffs, I'm gonna be pissed. I wonder if Greg Schiano would have blitzed our kneel-down in that same situation. GO BILLS!!! Shiano ran up scores against Div 2 or whatever they call it for years. He wouldn't think twice if they were up by 35 points running it in. Classless clown is Shiano, Mr Tought guy. If I were the Bills and on their 20 with 5 secs left i'd pass the ball into the flat for a TD aginst thsoe scum,bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 You risk injury by giving CLE the ball back and putting your D back on the field. Taking the knee is the right thing to do on many levels,. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The announcers who did the national television broadcast called it a classy move. What more do you want. It would have been a dumb move to run and fumble and create a chance - no matter how remote - for a browns score onside kick and second score like the lions did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 To put it in a different perspective....I would have been thoroughly embarrassed (as a Bills fan) if Chan had called for anything but a kneel down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah, it was classy. But if we end up losing the points differential tie-breaker and lose out on the playoffs, I'm gonna be pissed. I wonder if Greg Schiano would have blitzed our kneel-down in that same situation. GO BILLS!!! Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If we are in the same situation next week, I say we go for the touchdown and then go for two. Rub it into those Patriots*. God knows they have done it to us. Schiano has taken a lot of crap Schiano is a piece of crap. No class trying to hurt the quarterback... and yes, that is his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. Oh, Schiano is trying to squirt one free all right. There are rules and then there is the spirit of the rule. Schiano is accomplishing nothing more than painting a giant bulls-eye on the entire team. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If we are in the same situation next week, I say we go for the touchdown and then go for two. Rub it into those Patriots*. God knows they have done it to us. Schiano is a piece of crap. No class trying to hurt the quarterback... and yes, that is his goal. You watch what you say when you talk about a Bucknellian, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. fake spike is a totally different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. Against the Giants there was :01 left. Even if they forced a fumble, they would have needed to run it back for a TD. Odds of that happening are nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 i think many take that knee. you dont give the ball back in that situation. That is it precisely. The browns could not stop the clock. If you score you give them the possibility to score/onside-kick quickly multiple times and win the game. Taking a knee ends the game for sure. He was not being a nice guy, he was being a smart coach. And before you say I'm being unrealistic, look at a couple of the wild finishes yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 should of scored a touchdown,then call timeout,then went for two,call another timeout,kick the ball onside to get the ball back,then waste your last time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If we are in the same situation next week, I say we go for the touchdown and then go for two. Rub it into those Patriots*. God knows they have done it to us. Schiano is a piece of crap. No class trying to hurt the quarterback... and yes, that is his goal. Uh.. I'm sure they are going for a turnover.. What does hurting the QB accomplish with 5 seconds left in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Against the Giants there was :01 left. Even if they forced a fumble, they would have needed to run it back for a TD. Odds of that happening are nil. There was :02 seconds, and stranger things HAVE happened. Edited September 24, 2012 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 i like the kneeldown. very sportsmanlike to line up in the "victory formation". also, if we are fortunate enough to be in the same situation come sunday, i want the camera on belichick's face as the seconds tick away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 There was :02 seconds, and stranger things HAVE happened. i think that might qualify, statistically speaking, as the strangest thing to have happened. the odds of an actual fumble being about nearly nil, the odds of getting to the fumble to recover likewise slim, and the odds of getting a clean run out of a scrum like that possibly the lowest of all those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Classy move by Chan and the coaching staff. I'll bet Belichick and company would have run it down any team's throat there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDO'Kearney Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Classy move by Chan and the coaching staff. I'll bet Belichick and company would have run it down any team's throat there... Actually, in 2007 as bad as the 56-10 game was, the Pats let up. The 8th TD was a defensive score and when the Pats got the ball back with 11 min left they put out Cassel and the second stringers. When it became apparent that the Bills D was too demoralized to stop Heath Evans they started running (who?) Kyle Eckel to run out the clock. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200711180buf.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The kneel down was a no brainer. No one tries to score on that play. No sportsmans points awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coseybedaman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Chan gets no love for the following reasons 1. We all got screwed on the over of 44 as we held our breath while Bryan Scott runs to the 1yrd line 2. We all hoped Fitzpatrick sneaks it up the middle for a TD to help his stats that we all had to hear about last year 3. We rarely are in a position to blow another team out on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDO'Kearney Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Classy move by Chan and the coaching staff. I'll bet Belichick and company would have run it down any team's throat there... Actually, in 2007 as bad as the 56-10 game was, the Pats let up. The 8th TD was a defensive score and when the Pats got the ball back with 11 min left they put out Cassel and the second stringers. When it became apparent that the Bills D was too demoralized to stop Heath Evans they started running (who?) Kyle Eckel to run out the clock. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200711180buf.htm Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. I was with you, until someone made the point that he didn't on-side kick the ball back to the Giants. If you're not going to do that, are you really trying to win the game or are you just acting like an a hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 As a few have already stated, it had nothing to do with class, it was about strategy. Knee = a win in that situation every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do you do the same to a division opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do you do the same to a division opponent? You mean win the game instead of rolling the dice? Yea, I assume you still try to put winning as the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Running the ball risks injury for no reason. Any NFL coach would kneel in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 December 3, 1995 @ San Francisco. Darick Holmes fumbles on the 4 yard line. Lee Woodall picks up and runs 96 yards for a TD. Bills lose game 27-17 on that 14 point swing. THAT is why you kneel on the ball there. It wasn't in the last 2 minutes of the game, but it illustrates the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Schiano has taken a lot of crap, but the fact is his team was down by one score or less both times they pulled that stunt. For the same reason nobody throws a pity-party when a team runs a fake-spike, there was nothing unsportsman like about trying to squirt one free when you have a legitimate shot of winning with the ball in your hands. It's not the same thing as a fake spike. It's pretty obvious that Schiano is a jerk (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--buccaneers-coach-greg-schiano-regarded-as-bully-around-nfl-well-before-kneel-down-incident-20120921.html). It's also obvious that some people here find that kind of behavior appealing. It's unnecessary, and there have been plenty of great coaches that have been successful without being jerks, so why someone admires acting like that, or feels it embodies some kind of "fighting spirit" is beyond me. Edited September 25, 2012 by Matthews' Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Also, NFL coaches aren't dumb. They'll come up with an answer to this issue, if only for TB games. My solution is to line up in a kicking formation. It's against the rules to line up directly over the center and blow him up. Snap the ball to the holder, turtle, repeat. Sure it's riskier than standard victory formation but it counters Schiano's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Because it was the right thing to do. The routine professional and respectful actions are rarely celebrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Actually, if we're in the same situation against NE this weekend, I say snap the ball to CMac and have him run over to the Pats' sideline and crash into Brady. Then, spike the ball into Belicheat's face. We could handle the 15 yd penalty at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I liked the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Why would he be shown love for doing the right thing? He did what he was supposed to do in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 i think many take that knee. you dont give the ball back in that situation. Agree it was the right move and many if not most coaches would have done the same thing, but I can think of at least two coaches who would have run a play there - Belichick and Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 So Chan should be applauded for doing the right thing? Why score when you can kneel and end the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Simply, it's called class... what we see so many in today's NFL lack. The game was over Buffalo won, scoring again would have been unnecessary and disrespectful, no different than kicking your opponent when they're down. Just shows the type of character we have in our team and we don't fall into the same category as Ryan, Belichek, Schiano, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchammer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Actually, if we're in the same situation against NE this weekend, I say snap the ball to CMac and have him run over to the Pats' sideline and crash into Brady. Then, spike the ball into Belicheat's face. We could handle the 15 yd penalty at that point. The funniest thing I read all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I see both points, and lean toward the prudence and classiness of taking the knee. However, how much ya want to bet Belichick* would have gone for the jugular in the same circumstance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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