Lothar Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and I know it's still early but wow! these guys have only 1 sure fire healthy starter, possibly 2 - at the moment. Kinda wish we played 'em in week 1 http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=afceast&id=45634 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 The entire AFC East (except the Bills) are having some major "issues" - The Cheatriots are definitely having issues with their O-Line And they have no pass rush to speak of. The plan, apparently, is to use their TE's even more this year than last for quick strikes. To stoip them the Bills will have to play up close and force Brady to go over the top - and quickly. Brady is obviously a great QB and can do this effectively but it is my impression that if he takes enough hits he will start to flinch and throw early and less accurately. That's how I see the Bills-Cheats game. If the Bills knock Golden Boy around enough then they will probably outscore them. So...I likey what I am hearing out of Cheatriot camp. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I don't buy it. Belichick likes to play mind games so until i see it, i don't believe it. He is one sneaky SOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I don't like to hope harm for others... But I will gladly welcome sketchy offensive lines of our opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Put your hands up, clog his lanes, and get penetration and Brady will get frustrated and lose his poise. The line is a factor but there are other ways to intimidate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and I know it's still early but wow! these guys have only 1 sure fire healthy starter, possibly 2 - at the moment. Kinda wish we played 'em in week 1 http://m.espn.go.com...fceast&id=45634 Thanks for the post! I'm really looking forward to seeing what our D-line will do to their O-line & Tommy Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 As I pointed out in another thread, if it were the Bills with these same O-line issues we would be jumping off the Peace Bridge. But because it's the Pats* they are picked to go to the Super Bowl. I don't care how great Brady is. You aren't going to win many games with no o-line or running game. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 As I pointed out in another thread, if it were the Bills with these same O-line issues we would be jumping off the Peace Bridge. But because it's the Pats* they are picked to go to the Super Bowl. I don't care how great Brady is. You aren't going to win many games with no o-line or running game. PTR Not that I'm defending the Pats* or Tom Brady, but Peyton Manning was able to do a lot with a suspect line and RB by committee in Indy. A great QB can make up for a lot of deficincies in an offense. Personally, I think what made the Patriots* so great over the years was their line. I think the proof of that is in the 2008 season, I know some posters want to say it was all Bellicheck, but he wasn't the one out there throwing the ball. Matt Cassell came in and the Patriots* didn't skip a beat, besides missing the playoffs with a 10-6 record. If the Patriots* line truly is falling apart, I think this team won't be nearly as competative as some sports writers would have you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 We are just not capable of understanding the brilliance of the Patriots. The signing of Gallery and his subsequent retirement is all part of their plan. What an incredible off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Mentioning Brady and getting penatration in the same sentance can be troublesome! get penetration and Brady will get frustrated and lose his poise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I really think their defense is gonna make some noise this year taking the pressure of that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Not that I'm defending the Pats* or Tom Brady, but Peyton Manning was able to do a lot with a suspect line and RB by committee in Indy. A great QB can make up for a lot of deficincies in an offense. Personally, I think what made the Patriots* so great over the years was their line. I think the proof of that is in the 2008 season, I know some posters want to say it was all Bellicheck, but he wasn't the one out there throwing the ball. Matt Cassell came in and the Patriots* didn't skip a beat, besides missing the playoffs with a 10-6 record. If the Patriots* line truly is falling apart, I think this team won't be nearly as competative as some sports writers would have you believe. 11-5 record. Which is why i say Brady is slightly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 With no O-line, the refs are gonna have to be making double the calls to keep Marsha safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 It's going to be a tall order just replacing Light, who was a rock for them at LT. Mankins will be lucky to return before mid-season, which would put him at 9 months post-ACL surgery, and rushing it as it is. Koppen, another rock, is nearing the end and Connolly is an average player and won't be surrounded by Pro Bowlers. Vollmer has back issues and can't be counted on. And as for Waters, I doubt you'll see him back. He's 35-1/2, coming off the longest season he's ever had, and scheduled to make just $1.2M this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac72 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) not sure we're that much better off at the moment. only 1 proven guy at the right position. @LT - rookie who may not earn the job @LG - Levitre @C - backup Center (our starting RG) @RG - the backup RG @RT - likely to be cut backup Young, and likely swing T Hairston Edited August 7, 2012 by Brainiac72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Blasphemy!! I really think their defense is gonna make some noise this year taking the pressure of that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 not sure we're that much better off at the moment. only 1 proven guy at the right position. @LT - rookie who may not earn the job @LG - Levitre @C - backup Center (our starting RG) @RG - the backup RG @RT - likely to be cut backup Young, and likely swing T Hairston I don't disagree that the Bills line has issues, but some of your assertions...seem..like rather large leaps. I'm curious what leads you to believe that Young is going to be cut? It seems likely they will keep 8-9 lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and I know it's still early but wow! these guys have only 1 sure fire healthy starter, possibly 2 - at the moment. Kinda wish we played 'em in week 1 http://m.espn.go.com...fceast&id=45634 The NFL only allows us to play them after their buy week, so this will never be possible in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 As bad as their line looks, solder looks like a great player. But their oline is going to hurt them this season, especially early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Pats*: Linemen dropping like flies, weak run and mediocre pass-rush. Jets: Weak passing game, utter team turmoil. Wouldn't it be funny if the Bills and Dolphins were No. 1 and 2 in December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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