Bangarang Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Way too early to try and figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 yes McIntyre is needed, do you watch special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I really do not think Terrance will be there on Opening day. When you look at the Bills letting Bell walk ostensively cause of injury history, I think you have to look at McGee and say if others step up in preseason he would be the one to go. Love the guy, but. I think his run is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I really do not think Terrance will be there on Opening day. When you look at the Bills letting Bell walk ostensively cause of injury history, I think you have to look at McGee and say if others step up in preseason he would be the one to go. Love the guy, but. I think his run is over if mcgee was going to be cut it would have been before he restructured his deal in feb......with the new deal, he took major salary cuts and is now being paid like a nickelback, not a starting corner........his roster spot is secure http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1161016&nid=5860637&fhn=1 florence may face a similar choice now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I think it would be a huge mistake to cut Alex Carrington. I also think it would be a mistake to cut Danny Batten. That's right, I said it. I think he's shown steady improvement in two seasons and will continue to get better. Honestly, I'd rather lose Merriman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Anyone who thinks Florence gets cut this year is completely insane. Won't happen. And for good reason. I don't know, Rubes. Maybe I'm insane. Florence is 31, his production is declining, and we just drafted two CBs. Maybe he won't be cut, But I'll bet he doesn't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Belucheese Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Reggie corner makes the team as he does every year. Battan break out year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 No way McKelvin gets cut....traded maybe, but not cut....Bleacher had him as the 40th CB in the league...that would be top half of second CB group. Dude...just sayin'...Bleacher also has us getting a C- for this draft, but the Jets get an A? Pats get a C and Dolphins a D? Which Jets fanboi wrote that article? Bleacher can be fun...but it's not useful for analysis. Anyone who thinks Florence gets cut this year is completely insane. Won't happen. And for good reason. I am not insane. However, I do think that if it comes down to Florence or McGee, it's Florence. Based on last year, I think Florence is the least likely to stay, for good reason, and I can make a strong argument. The important thing is: we don't agree, which makes me The last thing I want is knowing who all our starters are going to be on a team like this, and have it be obvious to everyone. That's what we used to have = so many holes that you take comfort in knowing at least who some of the starters will be, and worry like hell about the rest. That's not this team. There is going to be one hell of a competition at a lot of positions....which is a very good thing. Hopefully Florence, and all of them, realize this. I want to be wrong, about a lot of players. I want them to come to camp and prove me wrong, consistently. This is a rare instance where I'd much rather be wrong, a lot, than right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 No way McKelvin gets cut....traded maybe, but not cut....Bleacher had him as the 40th CB in the league...that would be top half of second CB group. No kidding. I wouldn't want to cut the guy ranked #40 by a cross-section of the nation's leading basement-couch tenants. Bleacher Report's competitive salaries are known to retain plenty of people who would otherwise be collecting paychecks as NFL scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Made a few changes QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Colt McCoy, Brad Smith RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Tashard Choice FB (0): no fullback WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (3): Scott Chandler, FENDI ONOBUN, KEVIN BROCK, OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Kraig Urbik, Michael Jasper, CHAD RINEHART OC (2): Eric Wood, Mark Asper -- DE (4): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Kyle Moore DT (5): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Jarron Gilbert, Alex Carrington, Kellen Heard OLB (5): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Arthur Moats, Bryan Scott ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Leodis McKelvin , Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers S (3): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Notable Cuts: Danny Batten,, Spencer Johnson, Dwan Edwards, Florence, Kelsay ---------------------- I'm really looking forward to seeing fendi onobun, 6'6" 250's 4.48 40 time, insane athletic abilities. A offseason of getting coached up mostly in blocking and route running. He has more raw ability than any TE in the NFL. Look up his YouTube workout and be impressed! Pete Metzelaars has some of finest clay to sculpt from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I don't know, Rubes. Maybe I'm insane. Florence is 31, his production is declining, and we just drafted two CBs. Maybe he won't be cut, But I'll bet he doesn't start. I don't know how you define production, but Florence is a good, veteran CB who picked off a couple of passes last year including a key one against the Pats*. Nix and Gailey repeatedly say you can't have enough CBs, and Florence has been a steady presence on this defense. His experience and leadership will be extremely valuable for our crop of CBs, who (besides McGee) are all very young and/or inexperienced (or, in the case of McKelvin, just plain awful). I just don't see them getting rid of him when they say they need lots of CBs, McGee is too unreliable over the course of a season, and the rest of them are still very raw. I'm reasonably certain he would start the season, but as you say, by the end of the season I wouldn't be surprised if his spot was given to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, Marcus Easley, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Ruvell Martin TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper OC (1): Eric Wood -- DE (5): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, Spencer Johnson DT (4): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Alex Carrington OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Arthur Moats, Bryan Scott ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Brooks, Drayton Florence, Leodis McKelvin, Justin Rogers S (3): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Surprise cuts: Terrence McGee, Michael Jasper (who will have a great pre-season) I fear for Michael Jasper, it´s him or Mark Asper. This is my bet, we´ll see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 We finally have depth. Some good players are going to be cut. We haven't had that problem for a long, long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 It goes without saying that this is worth virtually nothing at this point; the draft's not even over. But I needed to sort through all our talent mentally, and writing out was the easiest way to do it. QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (4): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White, Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper OC (2): Eric Wood, Colin Brown -- DE (5): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, Robert Eddins DT (4): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Kellen Heard OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Bryan Scott ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers S (3): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Notable Cuts: Danny Batten, Arthur Moats, Leodis McKelvin, Spencer Johnson, Alex Carrington, Dwan Edwards. ---------------------- Somewhat optimistically, this has the first six rounds of draft picks make the team. For the 7th round, UDFAs, and future UFAs and other teams' cuts, I think the biggest opportunities are for a fourth safety (currently unfilled since Scott can play both positions), DL depth (although I think we're likely to shed a lot of veteran this summer, like Edwards, Carrington, Johnson), ILB, and potentially, TE. I think troupe will be cut over Johnson, Johnson is a very good rotational DT and Troupe is not. If Carrington shows improvement in the offseason I can see Kelsay walking, He's getting old, overpaid, and his leadership isn't needed as much as it was at the time of his contract. CB is interesting, I dont want to see any of them go, Leodis has been streaky and Mcgee is aging and injured often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 It goes without saying that this is worth virtually nothing at this point; the draft's not even over. But I needed to sort through all our talent mentally, and writing out was the easiest way to do it. QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (4): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White, Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike CaussinLee Smith OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper practice squad OC (2): Eric Wood, Colin Brown -- DE (5): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, Robert EddinsDanny Batten DT (4): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Kellen Heard, Alex Carrington OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Tank Carder ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Chris White CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers S (3): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy, Bryan Scott -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Notable Cuts: Merriman, Eddins, Arthur Moats, Leodis McKelvin, Spencer Johnson, Troup, Dwan Edwards. ---------------------- Somewhat optimistically, this has the first six rounds of draft picks make the team. For the 7th round, UDFAs, and future UFAs and other teams' cuts, I think the biggest opportunities are for a fourth safety (currently unfilled since Scott can play both positions), DL depth (although I think we're likely to shed a lot of veteran this summer, like Edwards, Carrington, Johnson), ILB, and potentially, TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 As of 4-28-12, here is our best 53 man roster: QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (1): Scott Chandler (David Nelson) OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper OC (2): Eric Wood, Colin Brown -- DE (4): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, (Arthur Moats) DT (5): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson, Carrington OLB (3): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham,(Bryan Scott) ILB (3): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder, Chris White CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Leodis McKelvin, Ron Brooks, S (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Bryan Scott, Da'Norris Searcy (Ron Brooks) -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Important Notes: 1. This team is pretty darn good as is. There is a lot more depth this year when compared to last year. 2. Ideally, we need a better backup QB to replace Thigpen. If Fitz goes down we'll be in trouble. 2. Ideally, we could use another proven TE. Visante Shiancoe and Bo Scaife are both available. 3. WR Martin is a stud on ST so he could push his way onto the roster ahead of one of the WRs. 4. A. Moats is a pretty good pass rusher in obvious passing situations. He makes the team for that reason. 5. We're a little thin a LB with only six. B. Scott doubles as a safety and cover LB so he makes seven. However, it might be wise to replace C. White with a vet LB. How about somebody like James Farrior?? 6. I love what the Bills did to bolster their O-line, but it might be wise to sign proven LT Marcus McNeil to tutor the young LTs and help keep Fitz healthy for one year. Here would be our roster with a few proposed, realistic changes: QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Colt McCoy, Brad Smith RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley, Martin. TE (1): Scott Chandler, Visante Shiancoe (David Nelson) OT (4): Marcus McNeil, Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik OC (2): Eric Wood, Colin Brown -- DE (4): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, (Arthur Moats) DT (5): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson OLB (3): Nick Barnett, James Farrior, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham,(Bryan Scott) ILB (3): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Leodis McKelvin, Ron Brooks, S (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Bryan Scott, Da'Norris Searcy (Ron Brooks) -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Notes: I replaced players on the above roster as follows: 1. QB McCoy for Thigpen. Word is that McCoy may be traded. 2. LT McNeil for Asper. Proven vet LT needed more than rookie backup OG. 3. WR Martin for D. Jones. Martin needed for ST. I like Hagan better than D. Jones. 4. LB Farrior for C. White. Proven vet LB could help show the way for the younger LBs. 4. TE Shiancoe for Carrington. I don't like cutting Carrington, but the Bills need a second TE more than they need a sixth DT. Your thoughts?? I can see Asper over Colin Brown, particularity if Asper can back up two positions G/C. McGee is on his way out for Rodgers. Carrington probably gets the nod over Edwards. Great roster though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Asper will battle Colin Brown for the backup center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Asper will battle Colin Brown for the backup center position. My money is on Asper. The Asper pick is getting no love, but it was another great selection by the Bills IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Bleacher Report's competitive salaries are known to retain plenty of people who would otherwise be collecting paychecks as NFL scouts. I thought you had to pay to write for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Maybe it's just me, but I'd add Terrell Owens to the roster. This playoff calibre (yeah I said it) team needs to fill that hole opposite Stevie. Perfect transitional veteran to get us to Easley, Jones or Graham as our full time #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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