metzelaars_lives Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. He's in congress now and is a Mormon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 No more Tampa-2 where DE's are 240 pounds and LB's are 220 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. if going back to 4-3 he could be a good depth player. Where he wasn't exceptional at any facet of the game he was a decent role player at a position where we are sorely lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 He's in congress now and is a Mormon. Muslim, not Mormon. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 No more Tampa-2 where DE's are 240 pounds and LB's are 220 pounds. Why not? Having a light, but lightning quick defense is how championship teams are doing it these days. Keith Ellison was the prototypical ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Muslim, not Mormon. PTR Po-tay-toe/po-tah-toe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Muslim, not Mormon. PTR "Mormon" is the American version of the Middle Eastern based "Muslim" religion. Both fit under the umbrella of "Islam". It is like Catholics and Methodists are both Christians. P.S. Nice try on the Peter Pan link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Didn't he play OLB? Keith Ellison did well for himself, considering he was an undersized backup type of LB...But he still is what he is. If the Bills every truly want to be good again, they need to start looking for top quality players, not just mediocre guys that can hold their own...In my opinion anyway.. Edit: I'll answer my own question. He played almost entirely OLB for the Bills, but started 2 games at ILB in 2010. Poz/John Digorgio played MLB during those years. Edited January 24, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Didn't he play OLB? Keith Ellison did well for himself, considering he was an undersized backup type of LB...But he still is what he is. If the Bills every truly want to be good again, they need to start looking for top quality players, not just mediocre guys that can hold their own...In my opinion anyway.. Edit: I'll answer my own question. He played almost entirely OLB for the Bills, but started 2 games at ILB in 2010. Poz/John Digorgio played MLB during those years. You're right, he was an OLB. All the more reason to bring him back. He was light, just like Maybin. And look at what Maybin did with the Jets! Maybe if Ellison could shed a few lbs. and get down to the 220 pound range like Maybin, we may have our answer at OLB and our new pass rusher for 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 You're right, he was an OLB. All the more reason to bring him back. He was light, just like Maybin. And look at what Maybin did with the Jets! Maybe if Ellison could shed a few lbs. and get down to the 220 pound range like Maybin, we may have our answer at OLB and our new pass rusher for 2012. You are right about OLB being a weak spot for the Bills...But comparing him to Maybin probably isn't a great way to present your case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj____ Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 "Mormon" is the American version of the Middle Eastern based "Muslim" religion. Both fit under the umbrella of "Islam". It is like Catholics and Methodists are both Christians. P.S. Nice try on the Peter Pan link. And its all a crock of ****, so who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Slow day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 "Mormon" is the American version of the Middle Eastern based "Muslim" religion. Both fit under the umbrella of "Islam". It is like Catholics and Methodists are both Christians. P.S. Nice try on the Peter Pan link. Are you serious??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 big and fast players are what this defense needs, he was neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Muslim, not Mormon. PTR Wrong Keith Ellison. The Congressman is 49 yrs old. The 'game' LB is much younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Are you his mother or manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was thinking Marcus Buggs would be a fine addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Adrian Peterson would love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 you'd like a guy 6,1 230 to be a little faster than 4.8 , he'd probably be a good backup but you really want someone better as your starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Thank God you don't have any say in the Bills personnel decisions. Good Lord, Ellison was horrible at best and only was able to look halfway decent because the rest of the team sucked balls around him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Are you serious??? Yes he tries those Peter Pan links all the time. Don't click it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thank God you don't have any say in the Bills personnel decisions. Good Lord, Ellison was horrible at best and only was able to look halfway decent because the rest of the team sucked balls around him!! That's because we didn't use him properly. I think if we set him up as an outside pass rusher, we'd be looking at 10-15 sacks easy. Typical Ralph being cheap not wanting to re-sign the guy. He didn't play this last year, probably because teams weren't willing to pay the high salary he would've commanded, but now I bet he'd come on the cheap being that he sat out a whole year and is desperate to get back on the field. Git 'r done, Buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Things are much worse that I thought if bringing Ellison back as a starting olb is being seriuosly suggested.... Edited January 24, 2012 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's because we didn't use him properly. I think if we set him up as an outside pass rusher, we'd be looking at 10-15 sacks easy. Typical Ralph being cheap not wanting to re-sign the guy. He didn't play this last year, probably because teams weren't willing to pay the high salary he would've commanded, but now I bet he'd come on the cheap being that he sat out a whole year and is desperate to get back on the field. Git 'r done, Buddy! Got it, this is just a joke. Whew!! Really thought you lost your mind there or just got liquored up and had access to a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 How did it take this long for some of you to figure out he was joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Is this a joke? Ellison was one of the weak part of a defense that was bad -- sadly it wasn't as bad as this year's George Edwards led defense. Yeah that's scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. Why not? Having a light, but lightning quick defense is how championship teams are doing it these days. Keith Ellison was the prototypical ILB. Really? have you seen the patriots or giants defense? or any other team in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 So is that a no on Buggs and Corto? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Are you serious??? No, Crayonz is our resident troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's because we didn't use him properly. I think if we set him up as an outside pass rusher, we'd be looking at 10-15 sacks easy. Typical Ralph being cheap not wanting to re-sign the guy. He didn't play this last year, probably because teams weren't willing to pay the high salary he would've commanded, but now I bet he'd come on the cheap being that he sat out a whole year and is desperate to get back on the field. Git 'r done, Buddy! Please tell me you're not serious...Use the smiley or something for God's sake...Or hurry up with the punch line...You've taken it too far already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Please tell me you're not serious...Use the smiley or something for God's sake...Or hurry up with the punch line...You've taken it too far already... Whatever man, I like Keith Ellison. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Muslim, not Mormon. PTR um except that Keith Ellison you linked is 48. Maybe we can get it straight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison_(American_football) and he is likely mormon, or more likely, as his brother did attend BYU. just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN1978 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) "Mormon" is the American version of the Middle Eastern based "Muslim" religion. Both fit under the umbrella of "Islam". It is like Catholics and Methodists are both Christians. P.S. Nice try on the Peter Pan link. Ummmm I'm pretty sure if I told my mother she's a Mormon and not a Muslim she'd smack me across the head... You're stupid... Does anyone else think they need to bring back Keith Ellison? The guy was a tackling machine in the middle. He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but he played with a ton of heart. I don't believe he was on an active roster this year, so knowing Keith, I'm sure he spent the whole year working out and prepping for 2012. I'm sure you could get him for cheap, I'd say it's worth a shot. This is the type of guy you bring in if you want to build a championship caliber roster. I liked keith.... My favorite special teamer that never got a chance to start was Josh stamer... He looks like kratos from God of war... Edited January 24, 2012 by HuSeYiN1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I liked keith.... My favorite special teamer that never got a chance to start was Josh stamer... He looks like kratos from God of war... BY FAR the Bills special teamer who was not given a fair shake to contribute from scrimmage until, ironically the end of his career was Steve Tasker. For those who didn't see Tasker play from scrimmage, think Wes Welker… Welker is a Tasker clone. Coming in a close second is Mario Haggan who's had an excellent career as a well-above average OLB in Denver. That body slam he had on Johnny White which gave White the concussion is a typical Haggan play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Keith Ellison was the prototypical ILB. Yes, he was a visionary, a man before his time. Let us all share in a moment of silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If we're getting the band back together, let's call Jason Gildon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN1978 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 BY FAR the Bills special teamer who was not given a fair shake to contribute from scrimmage until, ironically the end of his career was Steve Tasker. For those who didn't see Tasker play from scrimmage, think Wes Welker… Welker is a Tasker clone. Coming in a close second is Mario Haggan who's had an excellent career as a well-above average OLB in Denver. That body slam he had on Johnny White which gave White the concussion is a typical Haggan play. Well Tasker is an obvious one but I was talking more recent players and who can still play today... I also agree with Mario Haggan but I was more into seeing what Josh Stamer and Jon Corto would do if they started cuz they both were excellent special teamers for us as of recent years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 um except that Keith Ellison you linked is 48. Maybe we can get it straight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison_(American_football) and he is likely mormon, or more likely, as his brother did attend BYU. just saying... I know the difference between the two Kieth Ellisons. I was just adding to what I thought was a joke by Crayonz. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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