FrankReichComeback Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Of course I biased but we should hire Frank Reich as our new WR coach. He's been both a QB and WR coach during his stay in Indy. With Jim Caldwell's job up-in-the air (much like a punt from Moorman) there is a chance he becomes available this year. I think that Frank is a quality person and on top of that he seemed like the smartest player on the field in Buffalo. He just didn't have the tools like Kelly did and also many of his best years were spent on the bench up. But I think having him on the team would be good for morale and just a good decision in general! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Of course I biased but we should hire Frank Reich as our new WR coach. He's been both a QB and WR coach during his stay in Indy. With Jim Caldwell's job up-in-the air (much like a punt from Moorman) there is a chance he becomes available this year. I think that Frank is a quality person and on top of that he seemed like the smartest player on the field in Buffalo. He just didn't have the tools like Kelly did and also many of his best years were spent on the bench up. But I think having him on the team would be good for morale and just a good decision in general! I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. I've never heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACKMARINO Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. Don't forget Alex Van Pelt served on the Bills' staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. Link? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Um, no James Lofton was heavily considered for a job a few years back as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Don't forget Alex Van Pelt served on the Bills' staff. C'mon, stop bringing facts into arguements around here.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. maybe if you hire one that one wont shut about about hiring the rest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 maybe if you hire one that one wont shut about about hiring the rest.... Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Seeing as how Frank is known for bringing us back from a bad situation, why not make him assisitant GM??? -Buddy's eventual usurper. -Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Of course I biased but we should hire Frank Reich as our new WR coach. He's been both a QB and WR coach during his stay in Indy. With Jim Caldwell's job up-in-the air (much like a punt from Moorman) there is a chance he becomes available this year. I think that Frank is a quality person and on top of that he seemed like the smartest player on the field in Buffalo. He just didn't have the tools like Kelly did and also many of his best years were spent on the bench up. But I think having him on the team would be good for morale and just a good decision in general! Based on what? He's white and Christian? He was never on the field. James Lofton sounds much more articulate than Reich ever did, and he has played the position at a HOF level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan42790 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I guess if it were to happen I wouldn't be oppose to it. Edited January 17, 2012 by ryan42790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've never heard that. Bb he said a couple years ago in an interview I read. Im on my mobile right now but I'll see if I can find a link to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think it's more important for the team to focus on bringing in a top tier WR first. great players make average coaches look good, great coaches make poor players look good. I'd like to team to focus on getting some talent in here first, look at Indy, they literally had the team's bus driver as a head coach the last few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 WRONGWAY REICH? ARE YOU nuts? he played 4 good games his whole pro career ,he got the indy job because of polians connection, keep your man-love in check..i want qualified coaches not connected ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Of course I biased but we should hire Frank Reich as our new WR coach. He's been both a QB and WR coach during his stay in Indy. With Jim Caldwell's job up-in-the air (much like a punt from Moorman) there is a chance he becomes available this year. I think that Frank is a quality person and on top of that he seemed like the smartest player on the field in Buffalo. He just didn't have the tools like Kelly did and also many of his best years were spent on the bench up. But I think having him on the team would be good for morale and just a good decision in general! He was a good player and a solid person but I would probably prefer a guy that was a WR full time. That being said if he knows how to coach the position he knows how to coach the position. Perhaps his QB knowledge would end up being an added benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Seeing as how Frank is known for bringing us back from a bad situation, why not make him assisitant GM??? -Buddy's eventual usurper. -Any takers? Doug Whaley says hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert cohen Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 i think they should hire travis henry as GM and "lifestyle" coach.. guy only has as many kids as fingers and almost all with diff women.. can u imagine what his child support payment were??? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No luck on finding the article as the bills page archives ends in 2007. I believe the article was dated around the time that haslett was being considered for the hc job. I'll shoot an email to chris brown and see if he remembers the article and can link it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've heard of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLeonard Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. So, was this before or after he brought Marv Levy back as the GM...? I also thought that Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas currently work for the Bills in some capacity. I'm also pretty sure Darryl Talley was a Training Camp last year, working with the Linebackers... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 To my knowledge Jim and Thurman are not on the payroll. They seem to be more team and area ambassadors if anything. DT was at training camp as a volunteer who has expressed interest in coaching. Marv was not a former player and as I recall Ralph was referring to bringing former players back into the folds not former staff. Hoping I can find the interview I'm referring to soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 To my knowledge Jim and Thurman are not on the payroll. They seem to be more team and area ambassadors if anything. DT was at training camp as a volunteer who has expressed interest in coaching. Marv was not a former player and as I recall Ralph was referring to bringing former players back into the folds not former staff. Hoping I can find the interview I'm referring to soon Jim Kelly is a very well payed Buffalo Bills employee. Has been since the day he signed that contract when he retired from being a active player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Which contract would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 IndyStar reports Metzelaars and Reich are fired along with Caldwell Wonder if the Bills have any interest in bringing in either of these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not so sure about Pete, the o-line has been less than stellar. Frank on the other hand has done a heck of a job developing young talent at the wr position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nix's career in Buffalo did overlap with theirs, so we've got that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not so sure about Pete, the o-line has been less than stellar. Frank on the other hand has done a heck of a job developing young talent at the wr position. At a certain point a coach can only do so much. The players play the game. The truth? The Colts brass acquired better talent at WR than they did on the oline the past few years. Sean Kugler coached the Bills Oline which was a terrible unit. He goes to Pittsburgh and they go to the Super Bowl. Is he all of a sudden a better coach? Not that the Steelers line was that great that year, but they were good enough. About talent. Once a team has talent then you can look more at the coach. Like Wade Phillips in Dallas. Not a bad coach, but there was too much talent across the board for them to be underachieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'd be all for it. I understand that Wilson has consistently refused to hire former players on the dubious theory that "if you hire one you have to hire all of them". Um, no Ralph, you don't actually. Luckily your understanding has no bearing on what Bills do or in reality (facts) actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Sign em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 how much could it hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 If the time was right, I would think this to be an ok move...but would this decision be based on results, or based upon what we HAD in Frank Reich? I think if a Jim Kelly-led ownership group were running the show, this would make great sense. But with the current staff, I don't see a former player as much of an incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hey Alex van Pelt is looking for a coaching job as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 At a certain point a coach can only do so much. The players play the game. The truth? The Colts brass acquired better talent at WR than they did on the oline the past few years. Sean Kugler coached the Bills Oline which was a terrible unit. He goes to Pittsburgh and they go to the Super Bowl. Is he all of a sudden a better coach? Not that the Steelers line was that great that year, but they were good enough. About talent. Once a team has talent then you can look more at the coach. Like Wade Phillips in Dallas. Not a bad coach, but there was too much talent across the board for them to be underachieving. Pittsburgh's line has been atrocious the past three seasons. Big Ben might as well be playing behind a row of Styrofoam cucumbers. Likewise, look at the jump the Texans D made this year...because of Wade Philips. Soooooo...I'm not sure what your post is aiming at with either of these examples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/01/18/gonna-miss-metz-and-probably-a-few-others/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 James Lofton was heavily considered for a job a few years back as well... Lofton is the guy I wold want for receivers coach. I would like Reich as QB coach. Based on what? He's white and Christian? He was never on the field. James Lofton sounds much more articulate than Reich ever did, and he has played the position at a HOF level. I like Lofton as WR receiver coach as well, I do see how a QB could help WR's though. Reich was a huge help to Kelly when they played together. I do think he is a very good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Of course I biased but we should hire Frank Reich as our new WR coach. I think that Frank is a quality person and on top of that he seemed like the smartest player on the field in Buffalo. He just didn't have the tools like Kelly did and also many of his best years were spent on the bench up. But I think having him on the team would be good for morale and just a good decision in general! I think this would be a solid hire. In addition to having developed some good WR, I think Reich is a nuts-and-bolts kind of QB. I think everything Kellly did was instinctive. I think Reich, on the other hand, built a career for himself by being very aware of and able to improve technique. It would help Fitz to have someone like that on staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 To my knowledge Jim and Thurman are not on the payroll. They seem to be more team and area ambassadors if anything. DT was at training camp as a volunteer who has expressed interest in coaching. Marv was not a former player and as I recall Ralph was referring to bringing former players back into the folds not former staff. Hoping I can find the interview I'm referring to soon I vaguely remember the same but not context. I wrote it off as a situational excuse instead of a bullet proof life philosophy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Finally heard back from Chris Brown about that comment and here's what he said: AskChris AskChris@bills.nfl.net 3:50 PM (5 hours ago) to me You have a better memory than I do (lol). I believe Mr. Wilson was joking with his response as I recall. If you're wondering about Jim Kelly he has no interest in being a coach. Second, Mr. Wilson allows his head coach to pick his staff. So again, it was said, but I may not have remembered the context in which it was implied. I believe the question asked when RW gave that answer was about Kelly and Thomas becoming coaches/scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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