major Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin However, if there's a long lockout, UFL players could possibly become NFL players overnight. Didn't they start this last season? Does the lockout begin in Oakland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin I hope not in the same way Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz gets excited. “Some people watch adult videos on their computer. I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me aroused.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 If they do this again, I wouldn't mind seeing a couple 'players' from the Lingerie League.. Todd Schlopy vs. Lawrence Taylor. The '15 yr. old' won that time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I love it. I feel the NFL should use replacements. Let the overpaid babie sit for about 2 years then see how badly they want their million dollar jobs back. Millionares can't beat Billionares, it just doesn't work that way. The players can whine and B word all they want but they are ALL overpaid. Fans want more reasonable ticket prices? Then cut players salaries so teams don't have to build brand new friggin stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The return of JP Losman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Didn't they start this last season? Does the lockout begin in Oakland? I see what ya did there... I LOL'd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The only way to fight off the NFL with UFL players is for the UFL to hire the locked-out NFL players. That'd be bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Cool, the Bills might have a shot at the playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The only way to fight off the NFL with UFL players is for the UFL to hire the locked-out NFL players. That'd be bizarre. Yeah, then they'd all have to go "Incognito." Anonymous scabs with assumed names. Or they could hire retired players. Joe Delamielleure and all his guys (who are fighting the current players for increased benefits) could make some extra coin and get some revenge on their union "brothers" who are making obscene money while turning their backs on the guys who helped build the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 We've been using replacement players for 10 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 I hope we get HE HATE ME from the old XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I hope we get HE HATE ME from the old XFL. Rod Smart!! Heck while we are at it lets get Tommy Maddox as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneuf Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin That would screw up my keeper fantasy league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I always thought that they could only use replacement players if there is a strike, not a lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I always thought that they could only use replacement players if there is a strike, not a lockout. What seems likely to happen is that the NFL will negotiate for a while, and then declare an impasse and implement its last offer, which will trigger a strike. The players will argue that the negotiations were in bad faith and the final offer so offensive, it might as well be a lockout. You can buy that or reject it as you so choose. But this will justify the league hiring any players who apply for the open jobs. I wonder if the salary floor will remain in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey Hey Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 We've been using replacement players for 10 years now. This is very true! Would we even notice other than us being more competitive as the playing field would become equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 This is totally fine with me. As long as they don't bring in replacement fans to spearhead the tailgates, bring it on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin Does that mean we haven't seen the last of Losman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Of course the UFL only has 4 teams. So the NFL would have to empty out the UFL, CFL and Arena 2. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Im trying out for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I always thought that they could only use replacement players if there is a strike, not a lockout. there will be no lockout The NFL will play in 2011 under the last offered proposal before there is an impasse. If the players do not choose to play under those rules, it will be their choice to implement a work stoppage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I love it. I feel the NFL should use replacements. Let the overpaid babie sit for about 2 years then see how badly they want their million dollar jobs back. Millionares can't beat Billionares, it just doesn't work that way. The players can whine and B word all they want but they are ALL overpaid. Don't kid yourself. Last time the millionaires and hundred-thousandaires whipped the billionaires' butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Don't kid yourself. Last time the millionaires and hundred-thousandaires whipped the billionaires' butts. Come now. Nobody got hurt by the last deal, until the situation changed. And now conditions will be MUCH more favorable for a lockout/work stoppage in 2011 than they were back in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin The thought of seeing UFL players excites you? Does a bad local cover band excite you as much as the real artists concert? It will be deplorable, and worse it will probably count towards the games for your season tickets. I always thought that they could only use replacement players if there is a strike, not a lockout. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens soon. Link The current collective bargaining agreement expires in March 2011, and NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has characterized the possibility of a work stoppage as a ``14'' on a scale of 1 to 10. Unless the union gets everything it wants off the bat they're going to strike, IMO. DeMaurice Smith has to show them he's willing to go to the wall the first time something like this happens or the NFL will think it can push him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Don't kid yourself. Last time the millionaires and hundred-thousandaires whipped the billionaires' butts. Not really. The Billionares this time are in complete unison to let a labor strike happen. When they are unified like that, the other guys have no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Doug Flutie is warming up...scab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Come now. Nobody got hurt by the last deal, until the situation changed. And now conditions will be MUCH more favorable for a lockout/work stoppage in 2011 than they were back in 2008. Yeah, that's right---the players have the owners "bent over" again on this one, huh? When will those stupid owners ever figure things out? hahahahahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yeah, that's right---the players have the owners "bent over" again on this one, huh? When will those stupid owners ever figure things out? hahahahahahaha! I'm sorry, but there's NO way the players should be able to command 60% of revenues. IF, and that's a giant IF the owners act in unison on this one, it's going to be tough for the players to fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yeah, that's right---the players have the owners "bent over" again on this one, huh? When will those stupid owners ever figure things out? hahahahahahaha! Try to keep up, doc. I was talking about the last round of CBA negotiations, where the players truly DID bend over the owners. You're the only one who can't see it, or more precisely, doesn't want to see it. And now there's talk of using UFL players. Yes, sounds like the owners have it all figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Try to keep up, doc. I was talking about the last round of CBA negotiations, where the players truly DID bend over the owners. You're the only one who can't see it, or more precisely, doesn't want to see it. And now there's talk of using UFL players. Yes, sounds like the owners have it all figured out. Oh, I understood your tired response--hence I said "again". Try to keep up. No, I can't see 59.5% of nothing. I believe you even conceded this at one point. Taking it back now, I see. Yup, those poor owners--still smarting over the billions they socked away since the last CBA--now they are again at the mercy of the powerful players' union! I think the UFL story is a nice touch for the NFL---they are starting to toy with the union like a cat does a mouse. Like......well, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 We could have a shot at the playoffs! I mean we don't really have NFL players now, so our team could return intact! The question is, could this year's Bills beat the UFL champs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I'm sorry, but there's NO way the players should be able to command 60% of revenues. IF, and that's a giant IF the owners act in unison on this one, it's going to be tough for the players to fight back. Take another look, Joe, it never happened. Never will. Only possible if every owner spends to the cap always. It essentially was a voluntary program for the owners and only affected the players who were getting new contracts. No one else got a raise. The "victory" for the union was imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Oh, I understood your tired response--hence I said "again". Try to keep up. No, I can't see 59.5% of nothing. I believe you even conceded this at one point. Taking it back now, I see. Yup, those poor owners--still smarting over the billions they socked away since the last CBA--now they are again at the mercy of the powerful players' union! I think the UFL story is a nice touch for the NFL---they are starting to toy with the union like a cat does a mouse. Like......well, you know. There was no need to concede, much less take back, anything doc. I showed you that the owners have spent several hundred billion dollars more annually since they signed that new CBA than they otherwise would have spent. The actual percentage was a fool's errand. Look, I realize you painted yourself into a corner back in 2006 when you chortled at Ralph being one of 2 owners to vote no on the new CBA. Only to see Ralph be proven right a scant 2 years later and now there being talk of a lockout! At this point, you feel as if you need to go down with the ship where the CBA is concerned. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 The return of JP Losman... KEEP HOPE ALIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Finally, JP Losman might have a successful NFL season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Sounds like the NFL is preparing for the lockout. The thought of us using UFL players excites me. Link provided: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...in&hpt=Sbin there isnt anything wrong with being prepared just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 There was no need to concede, much less take back, anything doc. I showed you that the owners have spent several hundred billion dollars more annually since they signed that new CBA than they otherwise would have spent. The actual percentage was a fool's errand. Look, I realize you painted yourself into a corner back in 2006 when you chortled at Ralph being one of 2 owners to vote no on the new CBA. Only to see Ralph be proven right a scant 2 years later and now there being talk of a lockout! At this point, you feel as if you need to go down with the ship where the CBA is concerned. I get it. Wow, "several hundred billion dollars more annually since they signed that new CBA"?? Who gave you that number, your buddy Ralph? This sentence sums up tour grasp of the issue nicely. Anyway, your Freudian slip aside, the cap goes up each year. The difference with the new agreement wasn't catastrophic and was completely voluntary on the owners part AND almost all of any increase in salaries went to a handful of players and didn't even approach the "59.5%" of all revenues. You are the only one who still claims this is true. As I said before, Ralph doesn't get credit for claiming to be for small market revenue sharing and then voting against a CBA that would provide unprecedented Medicaid dollars for the lowest revenue teams. My guess is that he either didn't realize this or that he was worrried that the "qualifiers" in the CBA would rule him to be ineligible to qualify for the Medicaid. If the former is true, he's a doddering old fool. If the latter is true, he is a greedy, cynical miser who voted against relief for the truly needy in the league. Sorry, I'm going to side with the 30 owners in the room at the time who thought it made good business sense to get that deal done. They are vastly more wealthy now and hold the position of absolute strength heading into the current negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 There aren't enough UFL players to fill 32 NFL rosters. (It's only a 4-team league!) So where are the rest of the players coming from? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Wow, "several hundred billion dollars more annually since they signed that new CBA"?? Who gave you that number, your buddy Ralph? This sentence sums up tour grasp of the issue nicely. In the future, when pointing out someone else's mistake, it would greatly help your argument if you didn't make one yourself. Not that you don't make them all the time. But the difference between you and me you see is that I ignore them because I knew what you meant. But when you've got nothing else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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