2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Mangini and the entire Browns staff will return. Just saw this on ESPN, per Schefter. EDIT: linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 That likely leaves foxy in Carolina unless Bills make a play, problem is we cant afford the draft pick that Cleveland could have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 WOOT WOTT!!!! One less scenario that has to play out get it Russ GET IT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying lol yeah I don't trust anything Schefter is saying. Logan is our go-to guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Another card falls in our favor. Has there ever been a case where so many variables outside of the Bills' control have fallen into place the way we would want? Look at the coaching decisions made by the Bucs, Browns, Panthers, Texans, Titans, Bears, Seahawks (I think)... It's almost like, fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Roger that! He's the new voice of the people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Early nomination for post of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 That's it, with this news Cowher pretty much knows that it comes down to the Bills or CBS. I'm pretty sure he was hoping that Mangini would get canned so that the Browns would pursue Fox opening up Carolina. I'd say that our chances of attaining Cowher just went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Another card falls in our favor. Has there ever been a case where so many variables outside of the Bills' control have fallen into place the way we would want? Look at the coaching decisions made by the Bucs, Browns, Panthers, Texans, Titans, Bears, Seahawks (I think)... It's almost like, fate. It does seem like every door that opens up for Cowherb gets slammed shut pretty quick. I half expect CBS to lose their contract with the NFL tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 That's it, with this news Cowher pretty much knows that it comes down to the Bills or CBS. I'm pretty sure he was hoping that Mangini would get canned so that the Browns would pursue Fox opening up Carolina. I'd say that our chances of attaining Cowher just went up. With our luck, the chance that CBS will be keeping Cowher just went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusebob Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Does Wade get whacked if the Cowboys lose? That's the only scenario I see that Cowher might be willing to wait for. Of course, that would mean butting heads with Jerr-UH every day. Jimmy Johnson couldn't do it. Switzer, Wade ... guys have been yes-men. BTW, Jason Garrett has fallen off the map, hasn't he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 With our luck, the chance that CBS will be keeping Cowher just went up. That too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to previous reports, the Panthers wouldn't have hired Cowher anyway. So really nothing has changed except for the Browns making the monumental mistake of keeping Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to previous reports, the Panthers wouldn't have hired Cowher anyway. So really nothing has changed except for the Browns making the monumental mistake of keeping Mangini. Absolutely. We think that people complain here on The Wall. Imagine what is happening on Cleveland Browns' message boards right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to previous reports, the Panthers wouldn't have hired Cowher anyway. So really nothing has changed except for the Browns making the monumental mistake of keeping Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Absolutely. We think that people complain here on The Wall. Imagine what is happening on Cleveland Browns' message boards right now. They've got to be out of their minds right now!! So if Cowher does decide to stay on TV, how likely is it that it just means that Holmgren is letting Mangini stay to ensure yet another great draft pick after next year, AND bringing Cowher in after he cans Mangini? Hmmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Bad call by keeping Mangina. They could've had Fox. Belichick hasn't developed many good head coaches, has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Probably most interesting thing about this news is that just a day ago, every one of the talking heads on ESPN and NFL Network said Mangini would be fired. Now, they're all saying they're "shocked" by thiss news. So, if they were all so wrong about this and didn't see it coming, is there a chance they're just as wrong about the Bills and Cowher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 They've got to be out of their minds right now!! So if Cowher does decide to stay on TV, how likely is it that it just means that Holmgren is letting Mangini stay to ensure yet another great draft pick after next year, AND bringing Cowher in after he cans Mangini? Hmmm ... The reason given for the Panthers not wanting to hire Cowher is that there is a very real possibility of a lockout in 2011. If Cowher doesn't coach this year, he might not be back until 2012, and that will have been a 5-year absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Absolutely. We think that people complain here on The Wall. Imagine what is happening on Cleveland Browns' message boards right now. They are actually quite happy. Why wouldn't they be? Mangini has done a strong job with the players he'd had to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Probably most interesting thing about this news is that just a day ago, every one of the talking heads on ESPN and NFL Network said Mangini would be fired. Now, they're all saying they're "shocked" by thiss news. So, if they were all so wrong about this and didn't see it coming, is there a chance they're just as wrong about the Bills and Cowher? Basically, as I said before, no one knows anything. People are so concerned with breaking news first, that they don't bother checking to make sure it's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Does Wade get whacked if the Cowboys lose? That's the only scenario I see that Cowher might be willing to wait for. Of course, that would mean butting heads with Jerr-UH every day. Jimmy Johnson couldn't do it. Switzer, Wade ... guys have been yes-men. BTW, Jason Garrett has fallen off the map, hasn't he?? that is a legitimate concern....and the ONLY thing that could make me root for Dallas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Mangini and the entire Browns staff will return. Just saw this on ESPN, per Schefter. EDIT: linky So the egotistical Man-"genius" stays. Holmgren is the President, and now he's going to hire a GM too. Wow. Randy Lerners' adminsitration payroll will be quite a chunk. Of course, I'm not sure how Holmgren will co-exist with a GM working under him. It makes me wonder why Lerner paid Holmgren all that money. Same deal in Washington. Bruce Allen is the GM, Shanny's the coach, yet Shanny gets "final say" in all personell matters? Sounds like a recipe for a lot of yelling and screaming if you ask me. Of course it doesn' appear that our own Buddy Nix will be revelling in his own power himself. Oh well, at least he'll be able to describe out draft choices with flare in April, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Bad call by keeping Mangina. They could've had Fox. Belichick hasn't developed many good head coaches, has he? it makes sense to me. i think holmgren/mangini is a good combination. better than holmgren/fox. mangini is a talented guy who will benefit from workinmg under a proven success like holmgren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloATL Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't believe it until Logan says Mangini is staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 That likely leaves foxy in Carolina unless Bills make a play, problem is we cant afford the draft pick that Cleveland could have. what means this sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to previous reports, the Panthers wouldn't have hired Cowher anyway. So really nothing has changed except for the Browns making the monumental mistake of keeping Mangini. Yeah, ok.......the Browns are much worse than they were at the start of the season. Mangini has done a GREAT job of cleaning up Romeo Crennel's undisciplined mess, and has gotten rid of losers like Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr., who have done very little in NY and Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4805274 The Scenario was John Fox would take a buyout to be the Cleveland HC. Then Cowher would go to Carolina. Well with this latest breaking development, Cleveland and I have to believe Carolina are off the table. Now here is what I THINK will happen. Cowher will go back to CBS and allow John Fox's Contract to expire at the end of 2010 and take over the Panters. Again just my opinion but that is how I see it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4805274 The Scenario was John Fox would take a buyout to be the Cleveland HC. Then Cowher would go to Carolina. Well with this latest breaking development, Cleveland and I have to believe Carolina are off the table. Now here is what I THINK will happen. Cowher will go back to CBS and allow John Fox's Contract to expire at the end of 2010 and take over the Panters. Again just my opinion but that is how I see it going. This is like the 10th time this week you have posted your opinions that could have very well fit into a reply into another thread thats talking about the same thing. Do you have make your every thought a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 This is like the 10th time this week you have posted your opinions that could have very well fit into a reply into another thread thats talking about the same thing. Do you have make your every thought a thread? New article just hitting ESPN and I posted it. Don't like it or what I post? Tough ****, don't read my posts. Pretty damn simple concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 This is like the 10th time this week you have posted your opinions that could have very well fit into a reply into another thread thats talking about the same thing. Do you have make your every thought a thread? Fo' real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 This is like the 10th time this week you have posted your opinions that could have very well fit into a reply into another thread thats talking about the same thing. Do you have make your every thought a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yay another post on the same thing topic posted in other threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I don't think that Darth really had the proper response up there, but I think he was right in posting this. I didn't know about this and I read a few other threads.....This certainly is a new, imo, big development in this saga........I was really worried that Mangini was going to be a big domino to fall here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Wow!!! I didn't see that coming....That 6-3 game where he beat the Bills this year must have solidified his job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Absolutely. We think that people complain here on The Wall. Imagine what is happening on Cleveland Browns' message boards right now. It would be like the Bills hiring Holmgren and he retains Jauron "for continuity's sake" PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 As much as I don't like Mangini, I think it was the right move for The Browns, He had the team playing well to end the season, he earned the chance to keep his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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