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Josh has a case? Drafted to sit, but starts second half of week 1. Backup is known bad QB Nate Peterman (who is not an NFL vet) One of the least talented team in the franchises’ history Pairing him with an OC with a not great track record at best Scrambling to pull an actual NFL vet off the couch in October in Derek Anderson

EJ probably was never going to be good enough. But Marrone gave him Nate Hackett in his first nfl job, both the OV and QB coach. EJ never had a chance. Back then, we also probably would have laughed to think that the DC EJ has his best nfl start against would one day be one of the best coaches in Bills history. Welcome to the nfl now.

Rodgers has a long history of disrespecting his HC. He used to openly swear at Mike McCarthy from the field. I remember Rodgers yelling ," you're f******g stupid!" on SNF. That's likely why he loves OC Nate Hackett-- he'll answer to Rodgers before he answers to Saleh. The Jets have a culture problem.

Nate Hackett has built the unstoppable offense

And with the round of good pollsters showing Harris roughly +4, wait for Nate Silver's model to show her with at least even odds of winning. Followed by all our Trumpies turning on their best buddy Nate again. I spoke too soon. Silver's latest update. tl;dr = basically a toss-up in the electoral college, Harris with a significant uptick in national polling post-debate. https://www.natesilver.net/p/harris-is-gaining-in-post-debate

(I’ll post here as I go and as I catch them releasing, but please feel free to add and comment throughout the thread.) Yahoo: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-week-3-power-rankings-chiefs-are-2-0-but-there-are-some-concerns-041059676.html surprised New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5771561/2024/09/17/nfl-power-rankings-week-3-cowboys-saints-ravens/ surprised New York Post: https://nypost.com/2024/09/17/sports/nfl-power-rankings-for-week-3-plenty-of-movement/ Not surprised if anyone has the Texans ahead of us. I’m not cheering it but not surprised. Sporting News: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-power-rankings-week-3-steelers-vikings-cowboys-bills/c04a3f2e14f4ce25bdf51431 NBC San Francisco: https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/week-3-power-rankings-loss-vikings/1781601/ Yeah, absolute @$$ hats. Pretty much crown wearing. Don’t want to go in, but are curious? The Bills are behind the ravens and cowboys. Sports Illustrated: https://www.si.com/betting/nfl-power-rankings-based-on-super-bowl-odds-ahead-of-week-3-packers-are-alive-afc-north-questions-01j7xwjdkajx SI with a bit of surprising Bills love, if memory serves on their previous rankings. Pro Football Network: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-power-rankings-week-3-2024/ I have a lot of respect for the Niners, but not necessarily right now. As situated with injuries and with the loss they are not number 2. USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2024/09/17/nfl-power-rankings-eagles-chiefs-bills/75258528007/ Jeepers creepers, the Bills are one of the trendy teams right now. Honestly, I am surprised at some of these. ESPN: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41289781/nfl-power-rankings-week-2-poll-2024-important-backup-role-player NFL.com: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-power-rankings-week-3-2024-nfl-season I am just not buying San Fran at #2, anywhere, right now. Yes, they are still great, but something is going on right now and it isn't just CMC being out.

Nate Hackett for interim HC, let’s go!

He looks like Nate Peterman

Typical Nate

The idea that that a team starting a 40 year old QB coming back from an achilles tear, playing for a head coach who has never been in the playoffs, and is playing in Nate Hackett offense should be favored over the Bills for anything is probably the most absurd narrative of the 2024 season.

Bills legend Nate Hackett

The New York Times Writes Eulogy for Kamala's Momentum by Matt Margolis We’ve been saying for some time now that Kamala Harris’s honeymoon period in the polls would end, and for a while now, we’ve seen her lead shrink in the polling averages and some poor polling for Kamala in battleground states. But a new poll from the New York Times/Siena College shows Trump ahead nationally again. And you can bet the left is flipping out about it. "To me, the result is a bit surprising," writes Nate Cohn of the New York Times, before trying his best to quell panic from the left. "It’s the first lead for Mr. Trump in a major nonpartisan national survey in about a month. https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/09/08/the-new-york-times-writes-eulogy-for-kamalas-momentum-n4932349

You are mixing up apples and oranges. He is an advisor to Polymarket, which is a betting market. He is also a political prognosticator, in which role he has developed/refined a projection model based on independent polls. By the way, Nate's podcast with Maria Konnikova, Risky Business, is worth a (free) subscription. I confess to having a thing for Maria ...

Thank you for the clarification. I will forward to Nate Silver so that he can stop referring to his stuff as a “model”.

It is weird. I simply don't understand arguing with polls or models when you don't like what they're telling you. This thread started out with one of our more liberal commenters saying polls are useless. Then Kamala was substituted in, the polls reflected a gain for Democrats, and conservative commenters said they were garbage. Now they've settled in and analysts like Nate Silver say Trump has a small but significant electoral college edge and liberal commenters are angry with the polls/analysis again. Having said that, Polymarket and other prediction markets are in their infancy and are still very flawed. They are not "polls" and we really don't have a good data to suggest that they truly get at some kind of wisdom of the crowd effect when it comes to elections.

Do you believe that the same Nate Silver is fine with making his model/work/career/credibility a laughingstock because he’s in business with Peter Thiel? That seems to be your thinking. Not a very cool fantasy world you live in. Weird.

Nate silver of Polymarket (bookie & chief) that is owned by Peter Teal who hand picked JV as VP for the felon and buddies with Elmo who is giving the felon $45M in make good advertising on twitter? oh cool fantasy world you live in there.

Nate admitted his model is deeply flawed and predicted a convention bump that didn't happen. He's still tuning it in.

hmmm...538's forecast has Harris AHEAD by a similar margin https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/. Keep it up Nate. We need Harris voters to show up. She keeps telling people we're underdogs. There's a reason for that.

Yeah that pretty much says it all. Scrub vet over rookie, the McD way. Hamlin starting too. Lmao. You think he would of learned after Nate Peterman

I'm seeing weird skepticism about McDermott's ability to develop Safeties in the Lewis Cine conversation. Let's deep dive into how successful McDermott has actually been coaching Safeties in the NFL and getting the most out of them... We all know about Poyer and Hyde. Anyone not giving McDermott credit for those 2 can just stop reading because you're clearly just being silly. Quinten Mikell (Philadelphia) and Kurt Coleman (Carolina) became Pro Bowl Safeties under McDermott at a time when the Pro Bowl meant a little something. Coleman was actually productive and successful with McDermott in Philadelphia, not as good when the parted ways, and then a 7 interception pro bowler when they were reunited in Carolina. Mike Mitchell (Carolina) went to Carolina in 2013 from Oakland on a 1 year contract worth 1 million dollars and had his best year in the NFL by far under McDermott as DC, helping him to get a 5 year, $25 million deal with the Steelers, where he never matched that success or even came close to it. Nate Allen was drafted in the 2nd round by the Eagles in 2010, started as a rookie, and had 3 interceptions, 8 passes defensed, 1 forced fumble and 2 sacks in his rookie year. Haruki Nakamura went from backup nobody with the Ravens to legitimate contributing starter under McDermott with Carolina for one season... the only season of his brief career he intercepted any passes in the NFL... and he got 2. (EDIT: Brought up Roman Harper, but got rid of him from the post after some good observations) I understand the worry right now about our Safeties,but I feel like if there's any position we should give McDermott the benefit of the doubt on, it's that one.

Lol when you can actually tell me what weighing a poll means, I'll take what you post seriously. Until then - you're just a right wing idiot that does what the Republicans tell you to do and follow it blindly. Timely post by Nate Silver on the subject: https://www.natesilver.net/p/sbsq-12-will-the-polls-lowball-trump

I get why Bills fans don’t like a rival qb but I personally think it’s weird to hate on Lamar. People think Allen got hated on (he did) but Lamar went at the end of the 1st, after winning a Heisman. And morons said he won’t even make it as a qb in the nfl, after winning a Heisman. he plays a unique style and isn’t exactly loaded with offensive weapons. Jackson and Allen are pretty similar great stories. This is where McDermott gets too much hate. Allen joined a playoff team and has consistently had top 5 defenses to support his growth. Daboll was an awesome OC and Allen had him for 4 years, which never happens with successful OCs. there is this weird thing that Bills fans like to do and pretend Allen was just awesome right away. Allen worked his butf off to be awesome and has one of the unique skill sets of any qb ever. But the Bills, especially Sean, have done an amazing job supporting his growth. people act like McDermott is Nate Hackett (offensive guy!) instead of a top 10 head coach.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nate-silver-reveals-one-battleground-state-could-spell-trouble-kamala-harris?intcmp=tw_fnc nate silver has trump with a 53 percent chance to win the electoral college with him winning penn.

An anonymous comment doesn't tell me as much as the fact that Nathaniel Hackett is still running loose in their building. He's the punch line in as many jokes as Nate Peterman and that's really saying something.