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The thing that causes me to doubt it will be Julio Jones is venue. Most of these receiver contracts are based on production metrics, right? I mean, they're going to make their money on number of catches, yards after catch, touchdowns, etc. I think it's pretty quantitative. So if you're Julio Jones, you're going from a situation in which you're guaranteed to play 9 games in a dome to a situation in which you're going to play essentially every game outdoors (depending on the division through which you're rotating). The only decent weather you can be guaranteed is the away game in Miami, and even THAT might be raining. You're going from no wind, no rain, no snow, 72 degrees and perfect conditions to a crap shoot. I'm certainly not saying it can't be done, but my GUESS is that this has to figure into the calculation. If he's looking to move on and he wants to maximize the numbers for what will likely be his last contract, he might be better off in a place like Minnesota, or Indianapolis. Guess it all depends what offer is put in front of him. But I wouldn't be surprised if this figures into the decision.

I was at that game. The entire defensive line met Montana at the same instant. What a train wreck. I agree. That would work as a perfect career-ending moment for Brady.

And you, sir, should get that litter box changed. It has to burn after awhile. Have a great Christmas!

Personally, I'm hoping we read these daily Allen worship posts for about 15 years. If you REALLY enjoy rooting for a team that has churn at the QB position, there's an opening for you in Jacksonville. That hot mess ought to go on for years. You'll be at home there.

Just looked at the 506 maps, and called the local station to make sure I wasn't seeing things. It's been switched to the Cowboys-Colts game. Heading for the local sports bar. Damn you, Jerruh...

This is exactly it. Thanks for putting it up here. Now that I'm as old as my father was when he passed away, I understand the Upstate New York pastime of bitching about taxes. Jesus, it's like whining about the weather in November. Duh. Taxes are high. And the schools are damn good and you get healthcare for your pre-existing conditions. When these kids are in their 20s and making league minimum - which is like 8 million times more than I'll ever make in my life - the LAST thing they're worried about is a 5% differential between New York and Tennessee. I mean - just knock it off. Go back to bitching about taxes. And get off of my lawn.

Weirdly, you've pretty much encapsulated a typical Amtrak experience in once sentence. Thoughts: 1) Shaw - thank you. A well thought out write up. 2) I have been pulling for Foster since preseason, and have the thread contributions to back it up. I hope the kid continues to grow, because those legs and Allen's arm are going to be mind-twisting for defensive secondaries if they stay on the same page. Talk about ripping the top off of defenses. 3) We're all agog about Allen's running ability, and we should be. But I was blown away by Allen's SPEED on the 45-yard run. It wasn't Chris Berman's "Rumblin' Bumblin' Stumblin"", but it also wasn't darting around like RG III in his heyday (when he had knees). One second Allen was in the backfield, and the next second he was FLYING past linebackers. I mean...they weren't going to catch him once he opened it up. He looked like Eric Dickerson out there - a very big man running upright with deceptive, quiet speed.

I remember Elway really stumbling in his first year. But I also remember him throwing INCREDIBLY hard, fast passes. He was known for breaking fingers. Marino went to a Super Bowl in his second year, and everyone thought it would be the first of many. The kid was amazing. Very, very quick release. Eason went in 1985 and got so shell-shocked that he never recovered. Allen reminds me of Elway. I don't know why.

This is it. There are a slew of teams in the NFL that get talked up because of past successes, and Baltimore sits among this group. The conventional wisdom is acting like Ray Lewis and The Goose are still on the team. It's a shell of its former self, but they have the Super Bowls, and therefore... Very beatable by a lot of teams. I don't know about this Sunday, but a Bills win wouldn't really surprise me.

So...we're done crusading now?

I've been saying since Day 1 that Allen's arm reminds me of Elway's. On one hand, I think the throws (like Elway's early days) are almost TOO strong. On the other hand, I think of where it got Elway, and I'm pretty cool with it. The receiving corps - present and future - are just going to have to know what they're facing with Allen on a third-and-four crossing route.

I was thinking the exact thing. He and Foster are two of my practice squad picks. Foster is intriguing given the lack of depth in the WR corps. We get the speed burner candidate every couple of years, but they never pan out. It would be amazing to have someone like that paired up with a QB that can heave it.

It may well indeed happen, but I'm hoping all parties hold off until Monday. Unless we get by the Jags, in which case I'd request that it be postponed another week, and so on.

Having been there so many times, I had to laugh - yes, laugh - at the devastated fans in the stands. It wasn't ME this time.

In terms of worst NFL travel experiences, I got harrassed and almost into it in the old Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego. A few REAL drunks behind me. Someone called in security and escorted the gentlemen out. In terms of worst OVERALL travel experiences, I got the pneumonic plague in India, and was tear gassed and shot at in a riot in Spain. So, it's really just a game, you know?

I'm fine with just starting afresh, Scott. I can't recall ever looking back more than a week. Because as a Bills fan, one as to be ready to move on to the next as fast as possible.

I don't mean to be a total jerk, but this thread is unnecessary. We hashed all of this TO DEATH about four years ago, and back then it wasn't hypothetical. Donald Trump WAS in the mix. Jon Bon Jovi WAS in the mix (and inadvertently stated that he was going to move the team to Canada) Tom Golisano WAS in the mix. This WAS going to happen. And now we don't have to worry about this any more. Stop this.

We used to joke that Ronnie Harmon was buried at the Sheldon Family Cemetery while we were "standing there" after several adult beverages.

At this point, I hope we're "run heavy". I don't mean to be negative, but I still hold my breath with each and every Taylor pass. I just don't see the pretty Long Ball that he was throwing last year. Is it because there's no Watkins? I'm thrilled about three wins in a row, but this "constantly-waiting-for-an-interception-or-fumble-in-the-fourth-quarter" stuff is going to kill all of us.

This nails it. Have fun with the back-and-forth. I'm focused on tomorrow.

My brothers and I got to see Rodney Dangerfield in NYC in the 1980s. The laughter became almost painful. "In the Pines" - Milkweed (local Binghamton band; check 'em out)

Come on. There will be SO MANY touchdowns and SO MANY adult beverages that it will all be a blur. "Common People" - Ben Folds/William Shatner

This. Just starting to clue in. Here's the question - who is their third-string QB? Because the Pats* are going to need him. That kid is going to get killed.

Mike Jasper. "All Apologies" - Nirvana