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"I'm not at all convinced that everything is going to work out well, but on the other hand, there's nothing wrong in thinking it should." - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot

We've made it to 33 on this one, and this is only ONE of the WR threads.

Thank you.

The way my pea-brain sees it, getting over "the hump" comes down to the performance of two draft picks. 1) Hairston has to come out of the gates as a solid (didn't say "exceptional") CB2. 2) Sanders has to come out of the gate...well, basically freeing up Ed Oliver to be Ed Oliver. In my mind, the rest is "gravy", in the sense that the positional weaknesses are mitigated by the opposition they face...a fancy way of saying "It's okay, the Bills are just better this week." If we get the same performance out of each unit next year that we got last year, we ought to feel pretty good. Those of you who study this a lot deeper than I do will fault my logic, and I'm fine with that. Yeah, safety is a question mark - but not a nightmare. Linebackers are pretty good. (Are they going to line Jackson up as a LB?) Offense? So-so (kidding) Kicking and Punting? Not the issue. If Hairston turns into another Elam...or Dane Jackson...the Bills are not going to make it If there's no push in the middle...the Bills are not going to make it. IMHO, any high end performance by Jackson and Walker would just be a bonus.

Just LOVING those big 90s. Bring it, boys.

With that speed? I'll be looking for his first pick-6.

I'm thinking they're going to play in Dublin, and I want to make sure I'm in front of the TV on time.

Yeah, I was really bummed about Thornton. Given how fast they raced to the podium for Walker, it doesn't look at though they were going for the WR in any event. But, yes, a curse upon the Raiders for that one.

Serious question. Is Shorter still on the squad? If so...to be honest, I feel a little better. I liked that kid.

A few points that will probably irritate some. Sorry to come across as some sort of NFL tool, but football on Christmas works very well for myself and my extended family. We - as a group - only get together a couple of times a year, and one of these windows is Christmas Day. The kids are all grown now, and our the whole extended tribe are huge Bills fans (first) and NFL fans (second). Fire in the woodstove, glasses clinking in toasts, turkey coming out of the oven; having a football game on in the background is perfect. Trust me - we've tried having the NBA on in the background...something to soak up the alcohol during a pause in conversation. Who WATCHES that stuff? Yes, it's greedy on the part of the NFL (candidly, it was/is greedy on the part of the NBA). And, no, I frankly don't give a damn about ruining the players' Christmas - even if the Bills are on TV. (In fact, ESPECIALLY if the Bills are on TV). They're young healthy men who get to take a break from reality and make a lot of money for a few years playing a game for our entertainment. A LOT of money. Again, I don't get the hand-wringing. "It's all about money". Correct. And the sun comes up in the east. Works for me.

"Shoot, a guy could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all this stuff."

"Our pure essence".

Don't forget the nasal "Rochester A". It's been known to shatter glass at 50 feet.

Everyone look up "episiotomy". Some of our mommies had to go through that in order for us to be here.

Yeah, I had a lot of hopes for Cine as well. Looking at Forrest's highlights (I get it - they're highlights)...wow. I have offseason visions of a successful safety blitz on Mahomes. It would be worth the GUARANTEED 15-yard penalty. Bring in the guy with the cart.

I don't know if it's changed, but the law USED to be that if you could prove lineage to two generations, you could get Irish citizenship, and subsequently an Irish passport. That means providing (in the case of a grandparent) the birth/marriage/death (if relevant) certificate for the relative, among other documents. It takes some time and money, but eventually you'll get a passport. I know this to be true, because I did it back in the 1990s. I have dual citizenship in Ireland. And as someone who has spend a lot of years flying to Europe, it REALLY helps to enter Customs & Immigrations through the "EU Passport" line instead of the "Non-EU Passport" line.

To this point, Google "Messe Duesseldorf", click on the Google Maps image, and look at "Merkur Spiel-Arena". The Messe is a gigantic convention facility (it's like 15-16 halls), and a luxury/business hotel and stadium are built right into the complex on the banks of the Rhine. A bit grandiose for Buffalo, to be certain. But as a concept? Been there, done that. And it's in use 52 weeks a year.

And when that happens, there will be some people here that find something to complain about. Mark it down.

With respect to the bolded part...that's significant. I didn't realize that. Was this something confirmed by the team physician? If this is the case, I can't see them bringing him back at this point, despite the premium pick. That's too bad - I really had high hopes for him after his first game. Seems like everyone had a wrist injury at one point last season.

Not being confrontational, just asking with respect to the bolded part..."a starter for EACH of our lines"? Defensive line - no kidding! I'd go DT over DE at this point. But offensive line? The existing line is pretty damn good, and the backups could realistically be trade fodder this week. Just a personal (admittedly clueless) opinion, but I hope the front office doesn't burn a lot of draft capital on the offensive line. Certainly not above Round 8.

This. I'm of the same mindset. My company HQ is in Germany, and I would totally squeeze in a "high-level business meeting" therein to coincide with that game. Bucket list material.

Not post-mastectomy. That's the point. But, in fairness, I get it.

This is an interesting point. Boom Technology successfully flight tested their XB-1 "Baby Boom" aircraft about 2 weeks ago, reaching Mach 1.1. Yes, it's a long way from a flight test to settling into an aisle seat, but if there's any group that could afford premium seating on a supersonic aircraft, it's a professional football team. A million years ago, I was blessed to be able to fly the Concorde from JFK to CDG on business. 3:45 wheels up to wheels down. Something like that could make the entire concept workable. No worse than flying from BUF - DEN. Alternatively, they could consider daytime flights (and maybe they already do this). I used to fly from JFK to LHR leaving about 9:30 AM, arriving about 10:30 PM. 15 minutes later you're asleep in an airport hotel. MUCH easier on the jet lag. I don't know if these flights still exist; this was about 20 years ago. But Australia? Woof. No getting around that one. Flying over the Pacific makes flying to Europe look pretty tame.

We need "Oglethorpe". Those of you who remember the movie "Slap Shot" with Paul Newman will know what I'm talking about.

Not to get off topic, but chiming in to agree. This is what I observed as well. And during that 1984 season you really couldn't blame Shula. That was terrifying. And then it just got predicable.