Dr. Who

No matter how many times you complain about the team, you can't come back and coach.

Hopefully the oline, which is subpar to begin with, gets their LT and Mongo back. You, Ethan in Portland (who prophesied an epic loss and McD on the verge of being fired), and Gene1973 are among the most persistently negative posters on this board. The Bills have disappointed, partly through miscalculations in roster construction, but also because they've had some ill luck and egregious officiating that have contributed to their mediocre record. None of that makes them a bad team.

Well, you're always good for a joyful thought.

Yep, that's how they balance the books.

Rex Ryan is ecstatic.

Right, but, well, an explained joke isn't any good -- it would be especially bad if they called a foul when a player is on IR.

Yes, if we had overcome wildly bad officiating and won, folks would quickly get over it. It's ridiculous, however, to simply dismiss the attrocious calls made and obvious calls that were not made as special pleading based on nothing much. Your assertions amount to the usual "play well enough to overcome bad referees. If you don't, it's your fault and not the splendid indifference of the NFL to blatantly awful officiating." If it doesn't bother you, that's your perogative. Folks who are upset have a right to be.

I'm surprised they didn't throw a flag on Tre White . . .

That is the extreme conclusion. Most are saying there is a bias, conscious or not, that benefits certain players and teams. The Bills are not one of those teams. It has clearly cost us games.

I don't think anyone is saying we don't ever get a questionable call. Does your example make all the other points go away, because I am skeptical of your skepticism?

Addictions gained practically in the cradle are hard to quit. To answer truthfully, I think the situation is a gray area somewhere between wrestling and a just game. The little bit of hope that you might be good enough to beat the cheat makes it something more than irrational, though fandom is by definition not quite a product of lucid calculation is it?

I'll be highly surprised if this happens. I think there will be a concerted effort to redress deficiencies on offense. They've got to know they miscalculated on the oline and that they are wasting productive years of a franchise qb otherwise.

I understand. Just expressing bitterness at injustice without redress.

The problem with that theory is an expectation that the refs are competent and on the level.

Maybe he's a whiner because of blatant inequities in the way the game is called. Chicken, egg? There's enough anomalous stats here to feed paranoia, possibly not delusional.

Days like yesterday have to be reserved for playoffs typically. Otherwise, Allen's career will be like Newton's, the life span of a St. Bernard. Just a shame such an exemplary performance was marred by blatant elbow on the scales by the refs.

Sometimes conspiracy theories are correct, even if a lot of folks who spout conspiracy theories are unhinged. Impossible to verify this, but I have a feeling once the Bills have a new stadium in the works, they'll get more calls. It's the NFL way.

Roger Goodell.

Worse than a troll is a certain kind of obtuseness that considers itself "objective."

It's not all that needs to be said. An incredible comeback doesn't get dismissed just because they put themselves in need of an incredible comeback. Injustice or incompetence by the refs isn't a moot point. Folks who say you need to win so cinvincingly the refs can't screw you are asking for the moon. Typically, you're not going to blow out good teams, so getting calls right or not is always going to affect the outcome.

"Let's play as if we have an oline."

Arvo Part is an Estonian composer of classical music, mainly religious. This is a different kind of music from what is typically in this thread, but he's worth knowing in my opinion. One of my favorites from back in the day.

Yikes, I don't really like any of our rbs (if we have to settle, I think the answer is NOT Moss) and I can't believe the oline isn't bad, though I'm not a guru so I must not know what I'm looking at.

I am interested in this issue as it applies to our offense. We need a better run game. It will make our pass game much more effective. That's the point, though when one asserts it, some posters go back at you as if you are preaching a return to the seventies and the ground and pound game. That is a sophistry, substituting a ridiculous argument for the actual assertion in order to easily dismiss it.

Fella is here to provide the absurd take POV.