C.Biscuit97

If Josh Allen won the Heisman/ MVP by age 23, do you think the narrative would be different on him? Of course it would. Allen wasn’t that great in college and he hasn’t put up great numbers in the nfl so far. Why do some act like people are just making you reasons why Allen has been doubted? also, flip side. If Allen won the Heisman, would nfl “draft experts” have him as not a first round pick and having to switch positions? I’d argue that Jackson has gotten a lot more unreasonable “hate” than Allen when you compare their resumes. Despite being a 56% passer in the MWC, no one suggested Allen should switch positions or shouldn’t be a high pick.

What an awesome bunch of weirdos we are. Really nice paint job tbh. https://mobile.twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1305713825698770947

Allen is our goal line back. It’s like Cam.

I will say they definitely don’t have breakaway speed at RB. Also, a mobile qb should be helping open things up for the run game. I think it is a solid, if unspectacular, duo. But they badly need a homerun threat.

What a weird thread

Long, long way to go. These are the contracts that murder your franchise. You can’t miss on paying qbs. There are like 3-4 guys who are actually worth this type of deal. Not really. Brady doesn’t have a strong arm and has played with some garbage receivers but has a career 7.5 ypa. Great qbs are point guards Who get the ball to their weapons in space so they can make things happen.

It’s absolutely nuts that Pittsburgh could lose Bell and Brown for almost nothing and still be a contender. I know a lot of people hate them but what a well run franchise. They are absolutely loaded at receiver too.

Gotta say. He had been a huge douche for most of his career but he was super mature and respectful when they tried to bait him into throwing Baker under the bus. if he really did grow up, it could be a great move because his price rag is as low as it’s ever been.

Don’t look at old pictures of Allen then!!!

That’s about as good as you can hope for haha.

I think it depends how much their running compared to their passing stats. Young has one season over 500 yards rushing so I think it’s a low percentage. FT never had over 400 yards rushing in a season. but this stat definitely favors running qb, kinda like fantasy football. Brady passed for 5,235 passing yards and 109!!! rushing yards in 2011. That’s a total of 5,344 yards. NE had 6,848 yards that year. So Brady’s % was 78%. In 2015, Bortles has 4,428 passing yards and 310 rushing for a total of 4,738 yards. The Jags had a total 5,581, making Bortles 85% of the Jags offense. Would you say that Bortles was carrying the Jags more than Brady was carrying the Pats? Kinda insane. Interesting stat but really doesn’t mean that much in the big picture.

I don’t think this is fair. That organization is a disaster. And it’s not like he has had some good moments as a pro. Which receiver do they have that would start over our guys?

Why have we seen Lamar’s ceiling? He just had 3 tds passes in his first game of the season and excellent ball placement. this board really struggles to give Lamar any credit. It’s strange. If Allen had Lamar’s numbers after his college career, I think you u would have to be a moron to question him.

What prior material? Why are some of you so sensitive? You guys would really be going nuts over the Wyoming QB who completed 58% of his passes in the MWC, didn’t make 1st or 2nd team his last year there, and is completing 58% of his nfl passes and averaging 190 passing yards a game if he wasn’t a Bill? there were plenty of reasons to doubt Allen. If he succeeds, he will be the exception rather than the rule. But stop attacking like it’s so agenda. We would have been questioning him as a NFl qb if the Jets drafted him. dude had the best passing game of his career against a terrible team. Kudos to him. Now prove it against good teams and be consistent and he will get all the praise. You don’t understand why a SB/ MVP might get a bigger leash than Allen at this point?

Yeah, why would Philly do it unless they get a great pick back? They have a great strength. I would love having 2 awesome TEs.

Well, Brady and Wilson weren’t 1st rounders so it’s not exactly apples to apples. I was really high on Lamb and it is a good class. But Diggs is huge for us. I guess the way to look at it is easier to bring a young receiver in when you have an established guy. Diggs is perfect for Allen.

Agreed. It sucks because it seems like a terrible way to build up confidence for a young guy but I guess that’s the job. i can’t believe how bad Steven Gostowski is now. He was like one of the best ever and he is awful. such a crazy, important job.

Chris’ rankings are really weird. But like how some people have dug in on Allen being bad, he’s the opposite. I think he has been a fan since the draft.

I also think they did this because the Jets have a really good run defense and their weakness is their secondary. I thought that minus so many qbs runs, it was a great game plan. i remember the Pats played the Vikings when they had the number 1 defense and passed the first 15 plays in a row. You need to play to to ur strengths but also take advantage of the opponent’s weaknesses.

Um yeah. The Patriots have had some horrible draft picks. It could be argued that the Bills have drafted better. But guess what? When you win 6 SBs, you get the benefit of the doubt, if Allen wins a MVP/ SB, they will stop laughing at his bad plays because then it just looks petty,

What? All I ever do is mention how this board loves putting down Jackson, a MVP, and then want to start a riot whenever someone questions Allen. The logic of doubting a MVP/ Heisman trophy winner at 23 and then getting upset when someone criticizes Allen is crazy. that said, they are currently the best QBs of their draft class.

Big Ben could have no legs and still be a huge upgrade over what they had last year. I believe the stat was Big Ben had more td passes than the Steelers had combined the last 4 games of last year. They might have had the worst qb play in the nfl and they went 9-7. Is this good? Phil Simms is the worst.

I mean it’s a kicker but why would the Ravens do that? Plus that trade would melt brains. and I can’t believe how bad kicking was. It’s crazy there aren’t 32 guys who can’t be really good at the job. Bass gets a pass because it’s a win and first game of his career. But his leash has to be short. Too important to mess around with.

Great returns

You do realize that Jackson and Newton have won MVPs and are routinely criticized here all the time. Prior to the Jets game, he had a career high 266 passing yards and averaged 190 for his career. Those are really bad for a qb, so it’s not like they are Just making up stuff. if Allen continues with these games, it will stop. Consistency is the key. No one doubts his ability to make amazing plays. Just needs to string quarters and games together to become a legit guy. Nice start. You determine intelligence based on if a person likes the QB of your favorite team? Where did you get your MBA, Gordon Gecko?