Bob in STL

you lost me on #2. The offensive line play was deplorable from the get go.

Well your missing Dan Daraugh and Kay Stephenson but Peterman is the worst anyway.

Tom, the national media does not follow the Bills very closely as you know. McDermott is not a lousy coach but he is still learning. It is becoming more obvious that he has blind spots and that some games he gets completely outcoached. There were at least 3 games last year that we were not prepared to play. He also has some solid leadership strengths and overall he did a great job getting us to 9-7 last year. Brandon Beane has full responsibility for who we brought to camp. Most casual observers could see the possible train wreck at QB, OL, and WR.

Good post but lets also throw in the poor play of the WR's. I actually think our WR talent is worse than that of the OL. I saw lots of replays of covered receivers. Lots of receivers jammed at the line in man coverage in the rain causing Peterman to not even have a quick outlet pass. No adjustments made by the coaches either. Even when Peterman and Allen had time to throw there was usually no one open. The coaching staff has to do better.

Please stop. The players that came into the AFL in the early 60's were NFL cuts or old men, undrafted college players, and CFL players looking for another shot. The majority of the CFL's best players were American players that could not make the NFL, many of them played in the early AFL. Cookie Gilchrest, one of the best Bills players in the 60's played in the CFL. It was 1961. The Bills were one year old and they sent their scrubby team to play a preseason under Canadian league rules .. big field, 3 downs, etc. Never mind the Canadians league starts games months earlier than the AFL and NFL did. The Bills were not prepared and they were not very good that day. They were two years away from a Power House team. This has nothing to do with what we saw in Baltimore yesterday. The Bills are not jinxed. McDermott is not horrible. He was totally outcoached and unprepared for the season opener, no doubt about that. McDermnott and Beane are learning as they go. It sucks but it is true. He and Beane started the season with a mess at QB, OL and WR. They need to own that. They both lack experience at their jobs and we are seeing it right now. To think that McCarron, Peterman and Allen was a good group to go to camp with was a crazy notion all along. There were lots of veteran QB in the free agent mix and this is what we got to start training camp.

Your naming coaches and yes, they are all poor choices. I’m talking about GMs. I have said it before, Pegula has hired 4 GMs on his two teams, none with GM experience. We we need to give Beane some time. Calls to fire hm are ridiculous. Fire him and no one will come here.

Q. What has changing GM and HC every 3 years or less got us? Answer: One play off wild card game in 17 years. Q. What is the consensus among front office personal in the NFL about the Bills poor track record? Answer: Too much change/ lack of stability/ lack of top QB/ lack of continuity Q. How long has Beane been in the job? Answer: less than 2 years with only one off season and one draft thus far.

Not sure we could afford him and the two guys we signed on DL. Yes, he would have helped. Just don’t expect to find much OL help in free agency and expect to pay a premium. But hey, we got Bodine.

Yeah let’s talk about ignorant. I see you answered your own quote with Norwell, not mine. Do your own googling? What a moron. LOL. Ha ha.

Just once Terry should hire GM with actual pro level GM experience. Maybe even one that has won before. Is that so hard to figure out????

Yes, pretty much nothing. Name all the really good Offensive Line free agents last year. There was almost none. Pretty much every football program is talking about it. Most teams have problems at OL. The ones that don’t sign their guys.

Don’t even think about replacing .them. We have to stop the revolving door. It was one game.

We could easily lose three OL starters to free agency and get even worse. I figure we can play a rookie at Guard and/or RT next year if we get them in the first 3 rounds. Hopefully we pick up a free agent Guard as well. Building depth will take time.

This past free agency there was not much out there that you wanted to spend too much money on, except for QBs and we whiffed on McCarron. Nothing on OL. The money spent on Star and Trent was not extravagant. Hoping for better pickings next year. I don’t think we should even spend to the max next year. Better to save to sign our drafted players and lock up a core from three drafts. This is a not a fast rebuild, especially since they traded away all the talent from the Whaley/Nix regime.

Liked - nothing Did not like - Not being prepared. The defensive game plan to play a loose zone in the rain. The play of #28 in the secondary. The lack of touches for Shady. Kelvin Benjamin's lethargic play and attitude. The offensive line. The WR's on this roster. Special Teams - Missing a FG and Punter not catching a snap. But mostly the thought that Peterman can be a starter and now we have to plan Allen when he is still developing.

Good post … some of the underwhelming free agents signings are due to limited cap space. None of them are very expensive. We will be out of cap jail next year and should be able to bring in a few starters and some better depth.

Well, Ill give him and these players more than one game. My concern on OL and WR stems from the GM not helping a poor and inexperienced group of QBs.

It is not you. It happens to the Bills quite often but it happens to lots of teams. McDermott has had 4 games now where he and his team was not prepared play. today his plan to play a loose zone in the rain was a joke. the Ravens did the opposite and jammed our crappy WRs at the line, rushed more than 4, and put all kinds of pressure on the QBs.

yes, Polian was part of the build up. that is what I said.

IF we did add two elite players (Allen and Edmunds) then that is great and when these guys actually become elite they will make a big, big difference. that said, the supporting cast has to improve. We need immediate help at RG, C, LG, WR, OLB, and CB. Assuming Allen has a good season.

No way. None of the Nix/Whaley and Donahoe teams every played a playoff games The successful build ups were orchestrated by Lou Saban (twice), Chuck Knox, and Bill Polian. John Butler was part of the Polian build up and he was able to keep it going for awhile. After that, nothing.

never heard his name today except for the penalty. On defense I saw 95, 99, 55, 49, 58, 27, 21, and 23 make some plays and put in some effort. The rest of them not so much

I am hoping the defense is actually better than what we saw and they wore down due to the putrid performance of the offense - ZERO first downs in the first half. The time of possession was so skewed the entire first half. We gave up some big plays on 3rd down, that can be corrected. We did not get enough pressure on the QB so they kept passing and the WR's always have the edge on the CB's in slick rainy weather.

Yes they clearly were intended to upgrade the DL. The guys they brought in to help at CB have not impressed. I do not like all the zone coverage schemes .. because of it Darby was traded away.

Probably right. Look back at the moves in free agency. We brought in bodies to compete but no players that actually upgraded the roster - maybe Star and Trent were supposed to do that? They better draft well because their plan absolutely requires it.