JohnNord

But that’s exactly what Beane said in his press conference!?!?!?

No one is saying that these three are bad players but you can certainly argue that they didn’t take the step forward that the team and fans had hoped. My biggest concern out of these three is Spencer Brown. He was among the worst starting RT’s in the NFL. He didn’t make much progress from year 1 to year 2. The Bills elected not to bring in any competition to push him. He could end up like a Wyatt Teller….He could end up like a Cody Ford

It isn’t just that he defended them…it’s how STRONGLY he defended and that his actions (or lack thereof) seem to back up his words. The whole point of this thread was that he did the same thing last season with these players. It didn’t work out. This year there is more of a microscope on them. He chose not to make any moves, so his faith may or may not pay off.

My concern is that he looked better during a stretch in his rookie year than he did at any point in 2022. Maybe it was the injuries but the lack of NFL reps doesn’t seem to track

I’ll agree with you on Oliver. There really isn’t much a choice given his guaranteed salary and the level of play he’s shown on tape so far. The Bills don’t think he makes enough plays for $10M but neither do other NFL teams. I would disagree with you on Brown and Davis. While the Bills didn’t have the cap space to make a giant swing at top free agents - they also could have used the money they did have to sign better players to compete at RT and WR. The best the Bills could do was David Quessenberry and Trent Sherfield? I think these decisions speak louder to confidence in these players than it does to running out of options Isn’t that the whole part of a discussion forum? Almost every post on this site is speculation and/or an opinion. Also what accusations did I “hurl?” That Beane has confidence in Davis, Brown, and Oliver - he literally said the exact thing in his press conference

Exactly… I just thought that what he said about Brown was a very strong endorsement and more than what Beane typically says to defend a player. He also alluded to bringing in competition at RT. Many of us fans assumed this would mean a veteran to push him. Instead they only brought back David Quessenberry who wasn’t that much better than Brown last season. I think it all depends on how the board falls, but I can’t see the Bills using a pick on a tackle given how strongly they seemed to put over Brown

I took another listen to the Brandon Beane interviews after the season and at the combine. What stuck out to me was his defense of players than were much maligned by the fan base. In my opinion, the three of his former draft picks who didn’t “take the next step” in 2022, are being counted on to “take the next step” in 2023. This season will prove to see if The Bills faith in these players will be rewarded. Spencer Brown Brown was the Bills worst lineman at times in 2022 which is notable considering how poorly Roger Saffold played. Still, Beane was effusive in his praise and defense of Brown. He point blank said he had confidence in him and listed some reason for his poor performance in 2022. These comments make me think that the Bills won’t invest a high draft pick at tackle and will again roll the dice that Brown greatly improves. Gabe Davis Like Brown, Beane was quick to defend Gabe citing “unrealistic expectations” from his amazing playoff performance and a numbers of injuries. Losing faith in Davis as a true WR2, many fans wanted the Bills to make a big move. Some foolish fans convinced themselves to believe the lying huckster on Twitter “ErieCountyBills” who said they were trading for DeAndre Hopkins. All false hope. It’s doubtful the Bills make a huge move at WR like OBJ or Hopkins given the context, Because Davis is a FA in 2024 I can see a scenario where they draft a WR in the first 3 rounds. But again, when it comes to WR2 in 2023, the Bills are putting their faith in Davis to improve yet again. Ed Oliver Same story with Ed Oliver. Nice player. Not a difference maker unless he plays against a BAD offensive line…or on Thanksgiving. Beane again defended Oliver mentioning how the things he does go unnoticed and that he fought through injuries. He did mention that he left “more meat on the bone.” But Beane could have said this during any of Oliver’s seasons in Buffalo. Because of his guaranteed 5th year option, The Bills likely didn’t have a choice but to have faith in Oliver. But I can definitely see the Bills use a higher draft selection on a DT given the contract situation. The concern for me, is that we’ve seen the Bills make similar excuses for players in the past and it hasn’t worked out (Star, Cody Ford, Zach Moss, AJ Epinesa, Boogie Basham). IMO a big part of next season will be whether the faith the Bills placed in these former draft picks will pay off…

If you haven’t figured it out by now… that account is a complete fraud. I laugh at people that thought he had some kind of inside information or “sources.” He was trying to predict what would happen with D-Hop and now he had to backtrack. It’s astounding how many people fell for his BS

I listened to Sal and Matt Bove talk about Hopkins. Bove guessed that Beane was interested, made an approach to Arizona, and discovered they wanted too much. Between his age, contract and the compensation it was probably too high of a cost this season. There’s a chance AZ changes the demands but like Graham reported unless that happens the Bills aren’t making the deal

After watching Dodson and Bernard last season, they might want to sign Kuechly to play MLB!

I have no problem with people hoping it happens. I hope the trade happens too. I just get annoyed at these bad actors on Twitter making up fake information

It definitely makes sense but sometimes in the NFL the dots don’t connect the way they appear. If McDermott informed Frazier early on that he was taking over, then why did he wait until March to re-sign?

Me: Ian didn’t say the Bills were in on Hopkins Members of this thread: But he didn’t say the Bills WEREN’T in on Hopkins

Saying this is really reading into the video. He also didn’t speak of the interest from NE or Baltimore. It doesn’t mean they are out or in on Hopkins

I think most people can see that. There are some Bills fans who really want Hopkins so they want to believe ECBulls is somehow connected. But we all know it’s a regular dude pretending to somewhat important.

Wrong Hap… if you listen to Pat McAfee he said that Hopkins biggest priority is winning right now and would be willing to re-work his contract. I don’t think the fear is a team that’s re-building. It’s more about teams that are threatening for a playoff spot who could be a problem

It’s guesswork sometimes and reporters are mislead - especially around draft time. But because it’s Graham completely believe his information. I can’t remember a time when he jumped the gun and reported information that wasn’t true. Say what you will about his personality but he is a good reporter.

Yeah they have fallen from grace for sure… didn’t report anything Graham didn’t already say. Also chose to not believe Dunkirk Don aka ECBulls Dunkirk ECBulls

A reporter who actually has been….professional journalist for over 20 years?

This guy is full of crap… not sure why people are buying into his guessing. I would go with the word of legit reporters over a fan playing NFL insider on Twitter I’m sure this is just the Bills trying to “control the narrative” 👌

Terrell Edmunds is overrated

He’s too old… AJ Epinesa had more sacks than he did last season. Unless Campbell signs the vet minimum I will passs

I think he assumed it was Rodgers

This was kind of my point…

This is a noble attempt to try to quantify the strength of NFL rosters but it is so hard to do. First off, certain positions are equal and some should be greatly weighted - ie QB. So you can’t take much away from the overall team scores.