Virgil

There is no Luck this year, but this is probably one of the better overall QB classes of the past decade to me going into the draft. I think Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield will be solid QB’s. I see their floor as a Marriotta. Jackson could be a Winston, and there’s a lot of other maybes. If you remove the top 4 qb’s, I still think you’d have 2 1st rounders. Even Luck hasn’t turned out to be Luck.

Yeah, that’s not a report. Could end up happening. But not even close to official

Really didn't think he'd get that much money

Can we get this thread to surpass the Mario Williams one? I think we can ladies! Ground up in the freezer! F5

I’m actually a little shocked at how quickly they are hitting the reset button. They aren’t that far off to me and are risking a lot. I said this in another thread, but I think we are about to find out what kind of coach Carroll really is

Free Agency hasn't even started yet and we are already seeing trades, FA signing, and overall a lot more players changing teams than we are used to. It started happening slowly a last year, but it feels like there's player news almost daily. Even if the Bills weren't part of the trades to Cleveland, what the Brown's did yesterday and today was polarizing for me. I know there are a lot of traditionalists out there who don't like to see things change. So I ask, how do you like this new NFL where picks and players being traded is now more probable than years past? I personally like it and find that it gives teams a lot more flexibility with the salary cap and helps create a return on investment. In fact, I would really like to see the NFL adjust the salary cap rules where trades don't incur a penalty. However, like in Baseball, teams can negotiate if the teams would split the salary. For example, if TT was owed 18 mil on his deal, we could have traded him for a 2nd round pick, but paid half his salary. I'm not saying that's the better deal here, it's just an example. Thoughts?

I don’t expect any splashes or really anyone the first day. I think some mid tier guys at a decent price who will contribute to the system. Team guys, not me “high snap” guys

I’m confused. What other positions are there?

If it’s less than 9 mil, I’ll be annoyed we let him go. We were a much better defense with him on the field.

Tyrod’s trade is bittersweet for me. After the 3 points in our last game, and all the second half shut outs, I knew we had to move on from Tyrod for us to grow as a franchise. So this isn’t about his shortcomings. I just wanted to say thank you for getting us to the playoffs and ending the drought. Thank you for always being a classy guy, who restructured his deal last year, handled his benching like a champ, and was well liked by his teammates. I’m happy for what we got in return and I hope he finds success in Cleveland. I hope we find our franchise QB in all of this. Please keep the criticism of Tyrod out of this. TT was exactly what we needed these past few years and I thank him for being a great Buffalo Bill

I would have liked to see us package Tyrod and picks for the #4 pick

That’s a pretty great deal for him. I hope he does well throwing to Landry. I guess the Browns aren’t going after McCarron. I don’t know how to feel excited when we don’t know who his replacement is yet.

He’s the FA WR I want us to bring in. Pry would be a 1 year deal with incentives. If we got him, I’m happy with our WR’s going into the year. I’d still draft Chalk from LSU in the 2nd if he’s there though.

You’d need a sledgehammer to remove the smile from my face

Can’t stand him. Glad to see him cut. With that, I’m surprised to see the Seahawks clean house like this. With new coaches and a fairly overhauled roster, I think we will finally see the kind of coach Carroll is

Stop making me want Mayfield.

Yes, both are a crap shoot, I agree. But if Foles was the QB you think he is, why was he contemplating retirement before last season and without a job? Why aren’t people jumping at the chance at giving up a 1st rounder? I trust the football people to know their job. Yes though, if you could promise me Playoff Foles, I would give up a first for him without hesitation.

What the actual !@#$?

Like I said, he played great in the playoffs. I’m not taking that away from him. But are the last 6 games a representation of who he is as a QB or is his entire career. Also, they said they aren’t trading him for only a second. Of all the FA QB’s, I like Foles the most. His time under Fisher is hard to judge, but he was also left the Eagles for a reason the first time. I like his age, but is up for a new contract next year. What if we can get him for a second and he has a decent, not great year? Are you going to give him the 20+ mil a year he’ll command? There’s a lot of “if’s” and unknowns with him and a lot to give up for that. I’d be happier staying put with our picks and sign him as a FA next year. Build a strong team and then see what happens.

I completely recognize the great job that Keenum, Foles, and Bradford did this past year. I mean, Foles just beat the Patriots in the Superbowl. However, I can't let go of the fact that none of these guys were wanted by any team going into this year. Foles was considering retirement. Bradford was a starter of need after being discarded by the Eagles. And Keenum was also a Texans cast off. All of these guys were given multiple opportunities to start for different teams and could never hold on to the job. So the question is, what's more likely: Did they all of a sudden become quality QB's or were they on strong overall teams where they were almost plug and play? I think these guys all made some great plays in the playoffs and stepped up, but do the last 6 weeks of play offset the rest of their careers? For me, I don't want to give any of these guys the 15-20 mil for 3-5 years they are going to want as I don't think any of them are going to want their standard "journeyman" deals. Yes, I know that Foles would need to be acquired via trade. Overall, besides Cousins, I would rather find my QB via the draft and either keep TT or find another true journeyman. I'd honestly bring back Fitz for the right price. I'm overall worried about letting 6 weeks of performance and a QB Priority league make us overcommit to someone financially who isn't going to give us a huge return on the investment. I'd rather do what the Eagles, Rams, and Vikings did and build the solid team everywhere else, which allows a young/mediocre QB to thrive.

While I feel bad for the kid, I would love to see him drop to the 2nd round for us. It would be an absolute steal.

So, not Tolbert? I’m in

You never know what teams will need a QB next year. Brees and Brady could retire, someone could get hurt. You have to strike when you can

Will you say you’re wrong if they do an he doesn’t pan out? Everyone is guessing. Everyone also wants a franchise QB and starters with the first 3 round picks.

Looks the best of the second tier guys to me. I actually have him as the 4th best QB, while not really sold on any of them.